From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kelvin White Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Generating the ChangeLog files from the commit messages Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:25:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <21606.10799.112099.788101@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <1753218.Ot8JCqssfN@descartes> <546AABCF.8030705@cs.ucla.edu> <9xioico2nm.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83k32s9zm5.fsf@gnu.org> <546BC2C6.50909@cs.ucla.edu> <546D3287.7070802@cs.ucla.edu> <546D5CBA.2010200@cs.ucla.edu> <546E4B47.50506@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6223261da01b050856d593 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416543939 25968 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2014 04:25:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 04:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Yuri Khan , Emacs development discussions To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 21 05:25:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xrfml-0005zb-U2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 05:25:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38380 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xrfml-0006NI-4u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:25:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46544) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xrfme-0006Mz-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xrfma-0006Wh-IT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:25:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]:34197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xrfma-0006WS-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:25:20 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k14so5479486wgh.10 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:25:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JwUez5imyA0d6ZysVo42I8MRtzB2R4CMiYCEg5wwsd4=; b=kd8k6Co0NWrSXfV++CLH/tlSp+LycvyegPjphpcy9w6pkMz8M3gMUT9djMGMmNYy5S 6FafN92sViv6VZLPM/u+bfXL7yKhX0cUEIrdEZd2ztiFsRrIHyjSXGTSbsxq8KDkxTW6 A8yV40LhWrC23i+U8NjhrQtrEvOfhw+qLbhXi3ceJM1Ykx3m+47BJ80mEwY3w9MKtl6u eA0AhzkFRzjeWqiyo/OsJ9FysWFDhYf9sRs1TemYnvRBhvXKDmjRmO9BQCAbcZQcAtYD RVNbnYKvxINGajatbSSeDuxyiR/M2JqGLuCXndgc4zqbVt4zWlpb7ucsmQiwYm4AyMzG fd1g== X-Received: by 10.180.198.145 with SMTP id jc17mr3734758wic.67.1416543919249; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:25:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.27.215.135 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:25:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.27.215.135 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:25:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <546E4B47.50506@cs.ucla.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177907 Archived-At: --047d7b6223261da01b050856d593 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 "Paul Eggert" wrote: > > On 11/19/2014 08:04 PM, Yuri Khan wrote: >> >> What is the existing practice for such cases? > > > Existing practice elsewhere is to have just one generated ChangeLog file, at the top level. If we had done this for Emacs from day one, we'd have a ChangeLog file of about 25 MB. Although this would have been too large in the old days, nowadays it's not such a big deal, as computers typically have way more than 25 MB. When I open a 25 MB ChangeLog file with Emacs, it appears instantaneously on my screen, and I can navigate through it without delays. > > I prefer having a single ChangeLog file to having smaller ChangeLog* files in various locations, as it's a bit easier to scout through history that way. The patch that I've proposed in Bug#19113 doesn't go that far, though; it merely arranges for future git commit messages to be copied into the top-level ChangeLog. Perhaps coalescing the historical ChangeLog files could be done in a followon patch. I agree. Also, there is a separate ChangeLog file in the lisp/erc directory. How would I deal with this regarding this topic. Should it be merged or removed? --047d7b6223261da01b050856d593 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


"Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs= .ucla.edu> wrote:
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> On 11/19/2014 08:04 PM, Yuri Khan wrote:
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>> What is the existing practice for such cases?
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> Existing practice elsewhere is to have just one generated ChangeLog fi= le, at the top level.=C2=A0 If we had done this for Emacs from day one, we&= #39;d have a ChangeLog file of about 25 MB.=C2=A0 Although this would have = been too large in the old days, nowadays it's not such a big deal, as c= omputers typically have way more than 25 MB.=C2=A0 When I open a 25 MB Chan= geLog file with Emacs, it appears instantaneously on my screen, and I can n= avigate through it without delays.
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> I prefer having a single ChangeLog file to having smaller ChangeLog* f= iles in various locations, as it's a bit easier to scout through histor= y that way.=C2=A0 The patch that I've proposed in Bug#19113 doesn't= go that far, though; it merely arranges for future git commit messages to = be copied into the top-level ChangeLog.=C2=A0 Perhaps coalescing the histor= ical ChangeLog files could be done in a followon patch.

I agree. Also, there is a separate ChangeLog file in the lis= p/erc directory. How would I deal with this regarding this topic. Should it= be merged or removed?

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