From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Kaushal Modi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master cd0a795: Output number of characters added to file (Bug#354) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 23:02:52 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20170407022529.14820.30445@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20170407022531.17D812084C@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87r3143ndq.fsf@holos> <837f2wofjy.fsf@gnu.org> <1edf6efc-632e-719f-7471-5f4c56d1fba2@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fa814bca8a0054c9ba08f X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1491606235 2711 195.159.176.226 (7 Apr 2017 23:03:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 23:03:55 +0000 (UTC) To: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 08 01:03:49 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwcuy-00005K-QS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2017 01:03:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cwcv4-0001Ym-O9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:03:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47718) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cwcuI-0001Xe-Rq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cwcuH-0001e4-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:03:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::22d]:36591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cwcuH-0001dn-Hq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id s141so13292743lfe.3 for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 16:03:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8/qHVud7wb6kI87sf7nwmAO5OB22pGFgOrhiaL6fix0=; b=aD2iKGDwW46AhrVmUjhQuCvhe0/4cjmRRkkyOTKuWU5+GrFKhkXyZvMj8L3SDznECs 4+TkXfdh2Wid+J5//SyG63i1hP1aAGi/GOih66JeQP1Hhy9cs46L14ANsZlHC2Wpmsv2 hlnAjyI2Duj/aaUKhdu0DA10rndTm4CiWi98+eeRqZ5xrY/gUhI5po8PpJZuMbF985qy VdB2u9/GJWwYq6JnJYYG6yv9gtRZs9+9EHYnXy85NoeluuaZaoe34npQRQXT/16KZleD 1bbuy1FZWLJgWJDke9n5CDTtgJrhCN4rmJkZAMN+h3sbipgsc3VdLf+ch0Knt8ZsRlHz Gwgg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=8/qHVud7wb6kI87sf7nwmAO5OB22pGFgOrhiaL6fix0=; b=Y4bwpcAoyMqWce6ebQkveViRXjYzUkvN51o6Gh6YEYp0RYPn3pQWzIjFKjgUixUj/W 2/ioQBKaHADIq89dJK2RWHbjjVwqarYm+i48lnG6HzGqr+9Wmo3mwGmwGKTGC5nBMtv7 liIk4HaXWI+lASzOMv+9jx2fuNF9Glhfa37tco871U1EQMw5VfqiURn6hXnG7JdF/8Vp kaoB6aHYtH2iMrrBNPqJdUblkiWd0hSlEkvNmMC/Tba3qGvckSHX6AZDVcGndmXqG4M8 hT5+x0Jxj/SBRDMxdqXkbr7j0TnSVUGoXQ24W6A2DJeQyG3Zy/KxmgjuNnf3dIexaXgg hpVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1TXE+XPN7JPQ1VjFP7pLpbM1eiv5nbwKrI5vpU2cq+MCNWC+FJPt14OwVYb9UcdHd/U8qY70MtlnPKNw== X-Received: by 10.25.150.74 with SMTP id y71mr13138973lfd.167.1491606183912; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 16:03:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1edf6efc-632e-719f-7471-5f4c56d1fba2@cs.ucla.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:213789 Archived-At: --001a113fa814bca8a0054c9ba08f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:50 PM Paul Eggert wrote: > On 04/07/2017 12:14 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > P.S. In the future, it might be better to voice such objections while > > the patch is being discussed, > > All true. Still, I didn't realize how annoying the new behavior would be > until I started using it. Formerly, when I typed C-x C-s I would > typically get a little message in the echo area that I could ignore. Now > the extra length often causes the message to take more than one line, > which causes the lowest mode line to do a little dance to get out of the > way so that the echo area can temporarily take two lines, and this is > quite irritating. > > So, having tried it, I would rather not see these character counts and > would rather have the default be the way things were. > +1! Please make this an option, defaulting to the prior state (disabled). I never have wondered how many characters actually got written.. It just creates a random noise in the echo area. -- Kaushal Modi --001a113fa814bca8a0054c9ba08f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Apr 7,= 2017 at 6:50 PM Paul Eggert <egge= rt@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
On 04= /07/2017 12:14 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> P.S. In the future, it might be better to voice such objections while<= br class=3D"gmail_msg"> > the patch is being discussed,

All true. Still, I didn't realize how annoying the new behavior would b= e
until I started using it. Formerly, when I typed C-x C-s I would
typically get a little message in the echo area that I could ignore. Now the extra length often causes the message to take more than one line,
which causes the lowest mode line to do a little dance to get out of the way so that the echo area can temporarily take two lines, and this is
quite irritating.

So, having tried it, I would rather not see these character counts and
would rather have the default be the way things were.

+1! Please make this an option, defaulti= ng to the prior state (disabled).

I never have won= dered how many characters actually got written.. It just creates a random n= oise in the echo area.=C2=A0
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Kaushal Modi

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