From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kaushal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IEMteCA4IHNob3J0aGFuZHMgZm9yIOKJpCBhbmQg4oml?= Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 12:54:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1137cc2e46f5810515d13f0c X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431363362 2121 80.91.229.3 (11 May 2015 16:56:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , Yuri Khan To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 18:55:55 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yrqzi-0001pQ-Pf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 18:55:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38804 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yrqzi-0003XW-9v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 12:55:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42448) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrqzY-0003Ut-Pl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 12:55:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrqzS-0000QJ-J5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 12:55:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yh0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c01::234]:33511) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrqzS-0000Pm-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 12:55:38 -0400 Original-Received: by yhcb70 with SMTP id b70so37938440yhc.0 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=+fz/A+PcYY3xaGQ0b9Z0BZ5oJvGAtkQhFHFo3Otmisw=; b=cKdiOFoBSaud8ivqx8WAhr0aWyWJSctWzlwFgcX0uUtp0mh8yhwq4qP/o76E9OKi4S UaPXRsg1f4JZg8Aj5Gr4/vnqobLKQzd2G2sLwl0znz82YAE/3tETUkaIZaF8iSgm6U58 X7I/+RyWsy6vUG5oh9MAUU0azYEItpp0Q7DE4ONGp2yUT0C0xT10brnwEwXTfRt07KNH Vhg2Rw9uclS2OYuB26OFYrdZzp1VpyEikyeTz2+W9IOw4KdGLVt7xo1WpiBgLwN5E6A7 Opi2TxFi8lo+pFCpV6zhXjUGwF3p5msw7U4wbUpOpZT5x6S8gAjepRSL+QWWILX8MIW8 2tjA== X-Received: by 10.170.35.7 with SMTP id 7mr12197775ykd.23.1431363337514; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.13.198.2 with HTTP; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:54:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c01::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186422 Archived-At: --001a1137cc2e46f5810515d13f0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks like just like the double-angled quotation marks, there are also single-angled quotation marks "=E2=80=BA and =E2=80=B9" '( http://unicodelo= okup.com/#angle quotation/1 ) So does it make sense to bind them to >' and <' So now we have ended up with >> =E2=86=92 =E2=89=AB >=3D =E2=86=92 =E2=89=A5 >" =E2=86=92 =C2=BB >' =E2=86=92 =E2=80=BA << =E2=86=92 =E2=89=AA <=3D =E2=86=92 =E2=89=A4 <" =E2=86=92 =C2=AB <' =E2=86=92 =E2=80=B9 -- Kaushal Modi On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Artur Malabarba wrote: > 2015-05-11 16:40 GMT+01:00 Yuri Khan : > > Consider also that there is the =E2=89=AB character (U+226B MUCH GREATE= R > > THAN), which is semantically a better match for >>. > > Good point. Since =C2=AB=C2=BB are quotation marks they could instead be = moved > under <" and >". That's not as intuitive, but it's still easy to > remember once you see it once. > Also, most cases where a user types C-x 8 >>, they'll be looking for > the =E2=89=AB and not the =C2=BB. Not that =C2=BB isn't used, it's just t= hat (I think) > most people who type =C2=BB have it in their keyboard layout already. > --001a1137cc2e46f5810515d13f0c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looks like just like the double-= angled quotation marks, there are also single-angled quotation marks "= =E2=80=BA and =E2=80=B9" '(=C2=A0http://unicodelookup.com/#angle quotation/1 )

So does it make sense = to bind them to >' and <'

=
So now we have ended up with

>> =E2=86=92 =E2= =89=AB=C2=A0
>=3D=C2=A0=E2=86=92=C2=A0=E2= =89=A5
>"=C2=A0=E2=86=92=C2=A0=C2=BB=
>'=C2=A0=E2=86=92=C2=A0=E2=80=BA

<<=C2=A0=E2=86=92=C2=A0=E2=89=AA
<=3D=C2=A0=E2=86=92=C2=A0=E2=89=A4
<"=C2=A0=E2=86=92=C2=A0=C2=AB
<'=C2=A0=E2=86=92=C2=A0=E2=80=B9





--
K= aushal Modi

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Artur Mala= barba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-05-11 16:40 GMT+01:00 Yuri Kha= n <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>= ;:
> Consider also that there is the =E2=89=AB character (U+226B MUCH GREAT= ER
> THAN), which is semantically a better match for >>.

Good point. Since =C2=AB=C2=BB are quotation marks they could instea= d be moved
under <" and >". That's not as intuitive, but it's = still easy to
remember once you see it once.
Also, most cases where a user types C-x 8 >>, they'll be looking = for
the =E2=89=AB and not the =C2=BB. Not that =C2=BB isn't used, it's = just that (I think)
most people who type =C2=BB have it in their keyboard layout already.

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