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From: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, John Wiegley <johnw@gnu.org>,
	Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages'
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 14:05:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFyQvY1jfnhAdP6jeHBUbxZqQ3iSnai1mCvyRz_=yu9t8kRQsA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83fuwor0u5.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> I'd
> still like to understand what's so special about this particular
> customization.
>

IMO this particular customization is not portable across multiple machines.
All machines need not have the same packages installed; reasons: different
emacs versions, one machine begin at work, another at home, etc.

Another reason is that this variable is more like persistent data cache
which updates very frequently (unlike the other customization options which
a user typically sets and does "Save for future sessions"). In the former
case, user has no control on what this variable is set to; in the latter
case, user has total control.

Also the value stored in this variable is more of use to package.el than
directly to the user. The train of thought is that user doesn't care what
this variable is set to. But a user would care if delete-selection-mode is
set to nil/t.

Also frequent changing of this variable value causes noise in git commits
(if a user is saving their config using git); the diff of this variable
change is not very helpful as usually people have lots of packages
installed and a glance at the diff doesn't tell instantly which package was
added/removed. In crux, committing of custom-file causes non-useful
commits. That brings back to the earlier point that as this variable is
machine-specific, they do not need to be in a file which a user would
typically share among machines. If I am used to delete-selection-mode on
one machine, that stays true when I am using emacs on my other machine too.


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Kaushal Modi

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-19 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-17  9:27 Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages' Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-17 23:05 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-18  1:04   ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-18  1:43   ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 16:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 17:28       ` Colin Baxter
2016-02-18 17:35         ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-18 18:06       ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 18:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 20:34           ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-18 21:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 21:49               ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-19  9:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19  9:47                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-19 13:04                   ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-19 15:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 18:29                       ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-19 18:50                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 19:05                           ` Kaushal Modi [this message]
2016-02-19 20:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 23:56                               ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-22  0:10                                 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-22  3:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 21:00                                   ` Bastian Beischer
2016-02-19  4:18           ` alex
2016-02-19  9:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 21:15               ` alex
2016-02-20  7:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 18:25       ` Mechanisms to persist information (Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages') Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-18 18:54         ` Mechanisms to persist information Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 19:22           ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2016-02-20  2:17         ` Mechanisms to persist information (Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages') John Wiegley
2016-02-20  4:44           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-02-18 18:45       ` Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages' John Wiegley
2016-02-19  4:17       ` alex
     [not found]       ` <vYxebPyde_BnqKsA6mXLVX-_dj3rDIchNBYl3O1LxNhGCR7etgi0R4ZR7de5PU1TZXk9R4YsCjNxqkoh5lBR3Q==@protonmail.com>
2016-02-19  9:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 22:55           ` alex
2016-02-20  8:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-05  0:40               ` alex
2016-02-18 16:19   ` raman
2016-02-18 18:55     ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-18 19:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-02-17  3:39 Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages'? alex
2016-02-17  4:10 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-17 10:02   ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 16:52     ` Aaron Ecay
2016-02-17 12:43   ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-17 10:14 ` Colin Baxter

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