From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kaushal Modi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Remove "Recent messages" from `M-x report-emacs-bug' Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 14:20:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87k2j3jq28.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0441f495ff2605326982b0 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462804797 5246 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2016 14:39:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:39:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 09 16:39:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1azm3S-00072A-0N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 16:21:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41596 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azm3B-000296-P2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:20:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38947) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azm30-0001yI-Iy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azm2v-00072f-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:20:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]:34458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azm2u-00072P-Ua for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:20:29 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id k142so211891690oib.1 for ; Mon, 09 May 2016 07:20:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=WctiHr7vcOX4N3WmbP1V2/RVS4hRsYH8Ml5i3BILmCM=; b=WcwblA5OWPqoQHh6b0Z//8J5dsLXKW9veCyW/um3QtGmWicr/dmMzQ4Ihmqmo6KayU eslrJhwk0T487Umig3qhY8kBC8mejrbbHMS+8chUDVlJSHdVT2hzhMxYNgC+fNRUvKv9 XpwwlV2RlWA61hYFyQ79AHsmNEar1Ls31l73zGWCzg8sJuuhrrRSDbvcE/rMSL3lvg0l EuZeGGn1MviGglPJY+qZ0c6M7DXejapVHkT/q36SKoTw2c1i9AdGYdt5bhP4jyIDHpdP vwV5LpQyWOzEyDf+8rskm+6/Axg8IVESZEcXdPEgEWKckUeSe5AdqlBYuGQdmAkjSqp+ /wxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=WctiHr7vcOX4N3WmbP1V2/RVS4hRsYH8Ml5i3BILmCM=; b=EuotGuKwd5Y6j05ONyMcbRs18czKTqGY22Zu3c2gPJzFHCm9Yl1cdqbM2W5isQHVE9 keaLfY0hn3rT0P4E59R4UlGKFLwlgoDWQFMxj31mWVcdl5hP4uE66ZD/nJoOcVPQoJB9 HK+qPUN3sHOceRh2F34An9wYr+dkGC86MdeUoW4rYmpgzpI9XXVJMMiEMjbRLQVgGTnN b5Ue6xx+HsoTqBIJR0frOUz6pq5Oyb2A+/cn/kXXCPqIKeMyw89H2EU5vGrRwmHXPppl XoplgvVM0pMK/mw3bukUpkg7WPV7CCVZpBAxsQfwfBA807/+idHlzWw0WsaJVNOriTTT XXrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FW7OzOXuXPIXZ8dbbtW+rPymPOflWMPaoeMCIzgkfGORw/9YzNc8949HpK1kwx1HJsm+pDzvtvwXpUx5g== X-Received: by 10.157.0.68 with SMTP id 62mr317584ota.189.1462803627374; Mon, 09 May 2016 07:20:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87k2j3jq28.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203708 Archived-At: --94eb2c0441f495ff2605326982b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Emacs bug reports include the ten most recent lines from the *Messages* > buffer. I think that's kinda unfortunate -- there may be private stuff > there that people are not expecting to share with the world. > +1 I also don't like sharing the IP. The line: In GNU Emacs 25.0.93.5 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.23) of 2016-05-05 built on . Is putting the IP there useful? > And I've never found that data useful when doing bug triage. > > Should we remove it from the report? > I wouldn't mind that. Would instead adding `view-lossage` dump help? That way we can see what commands the user ran to recreate the bug before reporting it. Now view-lossage also lists the commands corresponding to the bindings. -- -- Kaushal Modi --94eb2c0441f495ff2605326982b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, May 9,= 2016 at 10:15 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen <l= arsi@gnus.org> wrote:
Emacs = bug reports include the ten most recent lines from the *Messages*
buffer.=C2=A0 I think that's kinda unfortunate -- there may be private = stuff
there that people are not expecting to share with the world.
+1

I also don't like sharing the IP.

The line:

In GNU Emacs 25.0= .93.5 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.23)
=C2=A0of 2= 016-05-05 built on <IP>.

Is putting the IP t= here useful?
=C2=A0
And I've never found that data useful when doing bug triage.

Should we remove it from the report?

I = wouldn't mind that.=C2=A0

Would instead adding= `view-lossage` dump help? That way we can see what commands the user ran t= o recreate the bug before reporting it. Now view-lossage also lists the com= mands corresponding to the bindings.
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Kaushal Modi

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