From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thibaut Verron Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:34:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> <3774c435-60d6-a958-77d1-a831599c85c5@gmail.com> Reply-To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35065"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Nicola Manca , emacs-devel To: "Alfred M. 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255994 Archived-At: Le jeu. 17 sept. 2020 =C3=A0 15:31, Alfred M. Szmidt a =C3=A9= crit : > > > Is it such a big deal? > > > > To have a different behaviour form if you have .emacs, and when you = do > > not? Yes, definitly -- it is fully valid to not have a .emacs file. > > As opposed to an empty one? > > Not sure I follow. On first start, the wizard would offer the option to create an empty .emacs and never bother you again. > > > In such a situation you just have to click "make my own" if you > > want a -q, or the other option to get most or all of the most > > common QoL variables already set, and on subsequent starts there > > will be an init.el and you won't have the message anymore. > > > > -q is for "quick" -- which is a different behaviour. > > I obviously meant -Q, sorry. > > Sorry, my fault -- -Q is for quick, -q is for no .emacs. But then it > still doesn't make sense, if you start with -q then you get a "wizard > screen" -- the whole point was to not get it anything different. I guess the behaviour with -q or -Q or whatever has to be decided separatel= y. > > > > Why not just have it on the splash screen if there is no .emacs= ; and > > > if there is a .emacs remove that blurb. We could add one or tw= o lines > > > along the lines of M-x recover-session: > > > > What's the difference with the original proposal? > > > > The original proposal read to me that the original splash screen wou= ld > > be something different when you have .emacs, or when you do not. > > So is yours, no? > > No, it is the same splash screen -- just one message more or less > (like for file recovery). Okay, I call that different, but fine. So essentially you suggest to include the current contents of the splash screen in the wizard?