From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thibaut Verron Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:54:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <30addebe-999b-c1cc-a8d8-27aba3fac566@gmx.com> <4a1188f8-9864-54c0-ae6f-5f32102d9757@gmx.com> Reply-To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18860"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel To: Adrien Brochard Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 10 12:56:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kRCYY-0004o9-QO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:56:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58696 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRCYX-0002eD-TO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 06:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRCWl-0001B5-MM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 06:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x431.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::431]:37552) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRCWj-0001pF-T3; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 06:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x431.google.com with SMTP id h7so12884725wre.4; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 03:55:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=3qjvN35JnUMW0Wt3Bnc9Cx86LG7TdUi7gZjmOdVCJEc=; b=FLI6IejoJMqC/uakAXZsmErPWw8wm2TPx+t/ffA8NeHl4dY19xDZap1DoS4fNdvRXG s+k0ze4Hyoxlr45K0f7oe1Cx6KgDh8UwOUTTnt0LBPgCoWPPTjzt7r3rcxCEkD2gwJOS IQhUIfRtkpwJpWGQya41pdYkXq8c6mPQFy2GH2ZQCjbNI8o+q3ovOy7KjlkANGdJ8T1X zQAXbVcdgc5bLvRNy29TxkbBCTYJv0g/gDZTSmiZTvSi08sLP3wddSyNvMvwocTf75wU 5jG1vutgiuVprmr2w/ya6a4wsK0rFWddADqKu4ch3NXiPmRuQ7FM/u45pJVChNEAYMn9 x2bA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3qjvN35JnUMW0Wt3Bnc9Cx86LG7TdUi7gZjmOdVCJEc=; b=OLih/oPHDn21clLbKMcjRnIAGuux3mXOeO3vGD8aRdmiIO9QlC4FqFq0XXCYvlSDrL 4IcB02UF7VOYaiegYif/gpYS6/OlFWGwq5MtfLMWd68TX1halA3TRAKDOlLOgcE5Ad1I ITfJQpoP6gRDJzIoiANKB8V7JtAP6QZNMaawqUMyKTI/X5sspwDTp8I8B0k0jXDLuFBe Kj071V1SNEORNi+iHyqklbxGST6s90sV4TcLVz//KZSWnxvrkpYlHU/CJlLXCTU1sAdv razUopBeUXjPZVW3sjBbyXDk2DwCtr0xEHKKyCZD0F9plLNM+ogfX+t6U7FMqER6DbCq VZTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531YFEWdA28AMIUV9kICGIP/ToXAW/i/kEdJ85R6GmLDAOHySM8a 809REMLNCF9rlb2bcoI+S9gVTDo/U+0kgvDp7h8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw7vPisgz8VmijKJw2cYhLCNDNph2AiLCe3xiWQDDr04KePvu5BHK3CVYPBg8BwZXNkyguylt5nf7c3F5yiqJA= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:498a:: with SMTP id r10mr19885620wrq.106.1602327299604; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 03:54:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4a1188f8-9864-54c0-ae6f-5f32102d9757@gmx.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::431; envelope-from=thibaut.verron@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x431.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257316 Archived-At: Hi, To me it looks like a pretty solid list of questions. I'd just suggest a few changes (assuming we go with multiple-choice): > ** How do you run Emacs? > - Client/Server mode only > - Standalone application only > - Both I would add a "I don't know" item here. > ** Describe your configuration > - I am using vanilla emacs (little to no configuration). > - Custom configuration > - Spacemacs - https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs > - Doom Emacs - https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs > - Prelude - https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude > - purcell emacs.d - https://github.com/purcell/emacs.d > - magnars emacs.d - https://github.com/magnars/.emacs.d > - Emacs Starter Kit - https://github.com/eschulte/emacs-starter-kit > - oh-my-emacs - https://github.com/xiaohanyu/oh-my-emacs > - Better Defaults - https://github.com/technomancy/better-defaults > - Graphene - https://github.com/rdallasgray/graphene > - ohai-emacs - https://github.com/bodil/ohai-emacs > - ergoemacs-mode - https://github.com/ergoemacs/ergoemacs-mode > - Rho Emacs - https://github.com/GChristensen/rho-emacs > - Radian - https://github.com/raxod502/radian > - Centaur Emacs - https://github.com/seagle0128/.emacs.d > - Other This list is significantly longer than others in the questionnaire. Would it make sense to group the less common ones in "other"? I also don't know if I would include better-defaults, ergoemacs, etc, in that list: they are standard packages, they don't require replacing your .emacs.d. > ** What keybindings do you use? > - Emacs defaults > - Evil/Spacemacs/Doom-Emacs (all the vim-likes) > - CUA-mode > - God-mode > - Boon > - Xah-Fly-Keys > - Custom modal (ryo-modal, etc) > - Custom modifiers (Emacs from scratch) > - Other Same doubt regarding the less common options. Also, I'd add Viper (built-in) to the vim-likes. > > ** Prior to using Emacs what was your primary editor? > - VIM > - VScode > - Eclipse > - Notepad++ > - Sublime > - Intelij > - Other I'd add an entry "Text editor supplied by the OS (notepad, gedit, kate...)" and an entry "None". > ** Do you use shell/terminal emulator in Emacs? > - eshell > - shell > - term > - ansi-term > - do not use. I'd add "vterm" and "other". > > ** Do you use mail client in Emacs? > - Mu4e > - Gnus > - Mut > - notmuch > - do not use Here too, "other" should be an option. Nice work !