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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257704 Archived-At: Le jeu. 15 oct. 2020 =C3=A0 05:52, Richard Stallman a =C3=A9c= rit : > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > Warning you mention is used on Emacs download page, see > > > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html > > > Great, so there is precedent ! Why is it acceptable and sufficient on > > the main download page but not acceptable in a survey? > > I am not sure what those words mean. I looked at that page to see if > I could figure it out, but I was stuck. Would people like to explain > what part or aspect of that page is at issue here? As Jean-Louis said, the warning he was referring too is the preamble of the section "Non-free systems".