From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thibaut Verron Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 20:58:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4a1188f8-9864-54c0-ae6f-5f32102d9757@gmx.com> <20201011073553.GA6784@odonien.localdomain> <20201011120840.GC2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201011125031.GC6784@odonien.localdomain> <20201011171508.GM2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <87a6wsd41w.fsf@debian> <20201011184410.GP2923@protected.rcdrun.com> Reply-To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11436"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Adrien Brochard , Richard Stallman , Brett Gilio , emacs-devel To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 20:58:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kRgYZ-0002rl-DL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 20:58:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58500 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRgYY-0001ug-Gd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:58:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRgY2-0001P2-KX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:58:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::432]:37343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRgY0-00030v-UU; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:58:22 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id h7so16529435wre.4; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:58:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LieDXTuF16Lj4P0LCAVcF5IemUWP8VtTTW509ofLQog=; b=nFkePpW2l/25rMfZv0TQTs0WQ/Q6oa/62vP5Fg3VCI5WIDaoBtB+zuslk7uICzIZHr uSw+K81FzGnwpqjHSv+Drf37PIQyr9/SiHVw3mnFqEQ/+LMgKps4tii1bKnb2ZnefPTQ xVDye9fcSiYlyHKU3oyzkaRgPuhp0BUlFwBvOl68IXiOH6VgD9dZdhKmZbQrC8nyfc4C KaU2ipAzihBnQbLT4oblsyXAO5nhYwo5pbns2gwcjHWjsswU2F8yfTYexpm+D25ITjdJ mRpyZpX7qhJBFEHwwIUhxB3OiLMtPMnRjNhJoRwoLd+aQ5jwIIU60knxj4tyxpuBFuLN Auzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LieDXTuF16Lj4P0LCAVcF5IemUWP8VtTTW509ofLQog=; b=F3okK0Z4rNoQo2UTDnZPDWa1lqenkj1BP0e9zgTxlTyMnM3tLTKYXiAuHORvOItz7f O+lx8BNnx2B8lAuEh1f6hEbWP/Cktbeng8FHR3vqdSoPjIizxF9ouiFxFPSJkkH1K1YH 1zSty4zClyOpoEmMtLqEXwZ4VBud008S3g9nA8cwfRuC/V8vd4NPkmHssxfrNQJJqltV 6UcRHfx4wb2/Cypgidd6A7h1FHHEnN4/ibklYz2EsALQPuoe0v1lMwo1yLqh0JFoD7dj XspEu2tdIUPFyESMQPULa32GWlxu4piPBhQWn/ZcM62PNrurFwuspq8PAkI3XYtr0srv Bm8g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532olQFau4sVHFLcTLSEIwR5tb2VL5u7zRHaQT+lVvhFuc+mdjO+ xLW1I/eHIMD6JbC9jtVU6i3EZEDwUBJ4qcJbm7Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzlKWKdBdWnmeZ8k0Gf+SHFWP6uYxa2C1xq6/WlaHuWHlQI7VK8GNEP3zIiyqNWAiM05w7JygGOiiYmZnB6V6c= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4141:: with SMTP id c1mr24388849wrq.113.1602442698840; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:58:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20201011184410.GP2923@protected.rcdrun.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::432; envelope-from=thibaut.verron@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x432.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257398 Archived-At: Le dim. 11 oct. 2020 =C3=A0 20:47, Jean Louis a =C3=A9cr= it : > > * Thibaut Verron [2020-10-11 21:28]: > > > It would be great if melpa.org didn't require Javascript for > > > functionality, at all. But that is just my opinion. > > > > > > It is not possible to browse packages on M-x eww, for example. Perhap= s a > > > fallback would be nice. > > > > M-x list-packages ? > > It is possible that MELPA webmaster have setup that website with > intention not to let Emacs users browse packages through Emacs, but to > force them to install MELPA into Emacs > > As the link to packages list is impossible to reach, but the link on > how to add MELPA to Emacs is quite reachable through Emacs. I think you're making an unfair "trial of motives" here. You can add Melpa to the list of repositories in an emacs instance and then browse it with list-packages. That will not "install Melpa" if you don't add the repository line in your init.el. For the record, here is the (short) discussion on the topic: https://github.com/melpa/melpa/issues/3483