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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254761 Archived-At: --0000000000001e6ada05aecfb184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If the only point is to be able to do undo and redo easily, I believe that the problem is already solved by undo-only and undo-only-redo. Would giving undo-only-redo (if not done already) a default binding break anybody's workflow? Le mar. 8 sept. 2020 =C3=A0 17:54, Alfred M. Szmidt a =C3=A9c= rit : > It seems that suggesting totally radical changes without any kind of > though is all the rage. There are enough subtelities in how undo > works in emacs that, yes, the vast majority would find it annoying and > unusable if it was changed to something like undo-tree. > > --0000000000001e6ada05aecfb184 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If the only point is to be able to do undo and redo easily= , I believe that the
problem is already solved by undo-only and undo-on= ly-redo. Would giving
undo-only-redo (if not done already) a defa= ult binding break anybody's workflow?

Le=C2=A0mar. 8 sept. 2020 = =C3=A0=C2=A017:54, Alfred M. Szmidt <ams@= gnu.org> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
It seems that suggesting totally radical changes withou= t any kind of
though is all the rage.=C2=A0 There are enough subtelities in how undo
works in emacs that, yes, the vast majority would find it annoying and
unusable if it was changed to something like undo-tree.

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