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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256891 Archived-At: Le jeu. 1 oct. 2020 =C3=A0 18:51, Jean Louis a =C3=A9cri= t : > > * Eli Zaretskii [2020-10-01 19:33]: > > > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 19:13:07 +0300 > > > From: Jean Louis > > > Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > > > I prefer that Emacs dictionary function become adapted to use dico. > > > > Once again, I don't see any reason to use an external program for > > these capabilities. Emacs is perfectly capable of talking to servers > > using built-in features. Where did the server come from, whether it's > > called dictd or dicod, doesn't matter. > > Oh, sorry, I get it. > > Sure, dictionary.el is doing that, I looked inside, it is not using > any client command. > > Yes, you are right. And as a bonus, it should work out of the box on all systems that Emacs supports (including Win32 and MacOS), without any dependency. That was the point of my question above, which was definitely not clear enough.