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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257446 Archived-At: Le lun. 12 oct. 2020 =C3=A0 07:37, Jean Louis a =C3=A9cr= it : > > * Thibaut Verron [2020-10-12 06:33]: > > And I would be worried about selection bias in a survey which voluntari= ly > > omits the most popular options from the lists of choices: how many peop= le > > would choose not to complete the survey of they feel that the questions= are > > biased? > > That is easy to solve: > > - [ ] Check here if you do not wish to complete this survey > > - [ ] Check here if you do not want to tell us anything about you > > etc. Can't tell if you're serious. But just in case, no, they would just close the page/buffer/whatever and not send the results.