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From: Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com>
To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	raman@google.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings?
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 18:24:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFsi02Qv-R+3PE8fFW24Z70Q4rbJAvEkw_XTDrF+KL_arPybwQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1kP4Kw-0004oZ-1F@fencepost.gnu.org>

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Le dim. 4 oct. 2020 à 15:46, Alfred M. Szmidt <ams@gnu.org> a écrit :

>    The exact same arguments could apply to C-c being "replaced" by C-x
> C-c.
>
> There is a big difference in that C-c is already used by Emacs for
> other things, one is for users, and the second is for local
> keybindings in modes.  Changing that would break quite a bit of
> things.


I meant when C-c was chosen, I wasn't suggesting to change things now.

But if C-x C-c for C-c was never too confusing, C-x C-z for C-z should be
fine too.

In any case, C-z can display a message guiding the user to the proper key
sequence. And one could argue that C-c could show such a message
too(without breaking anything).

C-z z or similar for suspend with a message seems like a good
> compromise.


I agree in general, with a preference for C-z C-z. But if C-z becomes a
prefix key, C-z C-z (or even C-z z) will have the same "prime" status as
C-c C-c today.

If C-z is purely for users with the exception of binding to suspend-frame,
it should not be a problem, as users can always override it they don't care
about tty suspend.

>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-04 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-27  9:31 Standardizing more key bindings? Thibaut Verron
2020-09-27 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-28  4:38   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-28  7:39     ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29  3:30       ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29  5:07         ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 10:36           ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-10-01  4:09           ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-01  5:20             ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 21:56         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01  4:27           ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-01  6:56             ` References to "REPL" from past Jean Louis
2020-11-01 13:51             ` Standardizing more key bindings? Stefan Monnier
2020-11-02  5:41               ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-02  6:14                 ` Yuri Khan
2020-11-02  8:08                   ` tomas
2020-11-02  9:50                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-02 11:40                     ` Python REPL using standard library functions Yuri Khan
2020-11-02 22:46                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 21:35             ` Standardizing more key bindings? Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 22:27               ` Drew Adams
2020-11-02  5:46               ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29 21:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-30  6:08   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-30 16:58     ` Opening Up More Keymaps " T.V Raman
2020-09-30 17:29       ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-30 18:12         ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-30 18:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 18:35         ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 18:41           ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-30 19:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 19:58             ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 20:00               ` Noam Postavsky
2020-09-30 20:03                 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:00                   ` chad
2020-09-30 21:34                     ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 20:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 20:51                 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:13                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-30 21:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 21:37                     ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:44                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 23:07                         ` T.V Raman
2020-10-01  2:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01  3:27                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-01 12:38                   ` Ergus
2020-10-01 14:17                     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-01 14:45                       ` Caio Henrique
2020-10-02  3:54                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 10:43                         ` Ergus
2020-10-04 19:34                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-02  3:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02  6:56                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 11:34                       ` Ergus
2020-10-02 12:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-04  3:38                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 10:38                         ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 13:46                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-04 16:24                             ` Thibaut Verron [this message]
2020-10-04 17:00                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-04 17:32                                 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 17:46                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-05  3:11                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-06  8:59                                       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-10-04 17:46                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-05  3:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 14:10                       ` Howard Melman
2020-10-02  3:45     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02  6:26       ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04  3:39         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04  3:39         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02  6:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 14:00         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-04  3:38         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04  7:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05  3:14             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 13:56       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-03  2:57         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-06 12:53 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-06 13:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-06 14:24     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-06 14:43       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-08  9:40         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-07  4:19   ` Richard Stallman

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