From: Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com>
To: "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 19:29:12 +0200 [thread overview]
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Le mer. 30 sept. 2020 à 18:58, T.V Raman <raman@google.com> a écrit :
>
>
> Almost as courageous as Lars' request to change line-length limits
> (hopefully not quite as controversial)
>
> Perhaps it's time we opened up some additional keymaps so that we can
> experiment with keybindings without causing too much trouble for
> long-term users.
I don't understand the purpose. Would those new keymaps be for temporary,
experimental, bindings, to be later moved to a better position? Or would
they be meant to be eventually used by default?
>
> Proposal:
>
> 1. C-z as a prefix --- at present c-z runs suspend-frame under X, and
> suspends Emacs on the console.
>
> Perhaps turn C-z into a new prefix key, and bind the above commands
> to C-z z -- that gives us a whole new keymap to play with for the
> future.
I personally like to have C-z free. I use it when I need to pass keypresses
to applications without caring about Emacs missing them. For instance my
Screen prefix key is C-z. Suspend-frame is bound to C-x C-z (which makes
sense to me with the other C-x bindings). So I would immediately undo such
a change in my configuration.
More importantly, C-z suspending the terminal application is a common
binding. One could argue that we have enough trouble with non-standard
bindings in Emacs not to add more now.
Maybe this behaviour could be preserved in non-GUI interfaces and the
(hypothetical) C-z key reserved for commands which only make sense in a
graphical setting? I cannot think of a single such command at the moment,
though.
>
> 2. F2 is currently taken up by 2c (2column support) and perhaps it's
> time to recover that key, I suspect 2c is not as heavily used to
> justify a common key like F2, and it would still have C-x6
> dedicated to it if we take F2 away from it.
>
I just tried <f2>-s to see what it is about, now my Emacs is frozen (100%
CPU). As far as I'm concerned this key can (and will) die tomorrow. :)
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-27 9:31 Standardizing more key bindings? Thibaut Verron
2020-09-27 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-28 4:38 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-28 7:39 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 3:30 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29 5:07 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 10:36 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-10-01 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-01 5:20 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 4:27 ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-01 6:56 ` References to "REPL" from past Jean Louis
2020-11-01 13:51 ` Standardizing more key bindings? Stefan Monnier
2020-11-02 5:41 ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-02 6:14 ` Yuri Khan
2020-11-02 8:08 ` tomas
2020-11-02 9:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-02 11:40 ` Python REPL using standard library functions Yuri Khan
2020-11-02 22:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 21:35 ` Standardizing more key bindings? Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 22:27 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-02 5:46 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29 21:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-30 6:08 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-30 16:58 ` Opening Up More Keymaps " T.V Raman
2020-09-30 17:29 ` Thibaut Verron [this message]
2020-09-30 18:12 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-30 18:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 18:35 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 18:41 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-30 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 19:58 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 20:00 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-09-30 20:03 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:00 ` chad
2020-09-30 21:34 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 20:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 20:51 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:13 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-30 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 21:37 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 23:07 ` T.V Raman
2020-10-01 2:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 3:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-01 12:38 ` Ergus
2020-10-01 14:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-01 14:45 ` Caio Henrique
2020-10-02 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 10:43 ` Ergus
2020-10-04 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-02 3:49 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 11:34 ` Ergus
2020-10-02 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 10:38 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 13:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-04 16:24 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 17:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-04 17:32 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 17:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-05 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-06 8:59 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-10-04 17:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-05 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 14:10 ` Howard Melman
2020-10-02 3:45 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 6:26 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 7:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 13:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-03 2:57 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-06 12:53 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-06 13:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-06 14:24 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-06 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-08 9:40 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-07 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
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