From: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau-LuT7N8upsGq9tw52UnRK6UZa+K1vlBrA@public.gmane.org>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord-WS8JpuUeUJXe9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv-39ZsbGIQGT7e5aOfsHch1g@public.gmane.org>,
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>,
Msys2
<msys2-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
"Emacs developers" <emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: About DLLs needed by Emacs (W64)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:24:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFgFV9Oa9vFY_L+=H=ysAy2RZBakmPmoNA5ed=FrMuDKeKGOdw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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And sorry if my answer seems rude because I know you did an amazing job
for packaging this stuff. But there always will be a problem with
overlapping packages
which is difficult to solve.
Fabrice
2017-11-23 8:15 GMT+01:00 Fabrice Popineau <
fabrice.popineau-LuT7N8upsGq9tw52UnRK6UZa+K1vlBrA@public.gmane.org>:
>
>
> 2017-11-23 0:06 GMT+01:00 Phillip Lord <phillip.lord-WS8JpuUeUJXe9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>:
>
>> Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau-LuT7N8upsGq9tw52UnRK6UZa+K1vlBrA@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > 2017-11-20 18:31 GMT+01:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>:
>> >> But in general, your point is valid: various optional libraries need
>> >> support
>> >> files to work properly.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Given the numerous dependencies, and as long as msys2/mingw64 is
>> > concerned, it is so much easier to install msys2 and then request
>> > emacs from pacman than to package a standalone emacs. Lots of elisp
>> > packages may require other mingw64 packages : a spell checker, git,
>> > etc. It is easy to install them with pacman. The user will have a
>> > much harder time with a standalone emacs. If you want a full emacs
>> > experience, you need a full unix-like environment.
>>
>>
>> The new "with-deps" build and installer of Emacs actually packages quite
>> a bit of msys2/mingw64 including, for example, a python
>> installation.
>>
>
> This is precisely the kind of drifting I hate.
> When on Windows I don't want to use the msys2 python because it doesn't
> play so well.
> I vastly prefer Anaconda (On GNU/Linux too btw)
> If you start to package Python with emacs, you'll end up packaging the
> whole MSys2.
> At least that should be made optional.
>
> One nasty thing about DLLs. Anaconda ships with libpng.dll and others
> which are
> dynamically loaded by emacs. Reason why in my own copy of Emacs, I have
> restricted
> the path where dlls are looked for to the emacs binary directory.
>
> Fabrice
>
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2017-11-20 12:53 About DLLs needed by Emacs (W64) Angelo Graziosi
[not found] ` <1639589366.4676.1511182396362-HsGP3tMACQiIsOV+laUMjw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 13:55 ` David Macek
[not found] ` <4d86f0fd-d162-1287-861d-4527b8c0fd78-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 14:46 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-20 15:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <8760a5t2iv.fsf-39ZsbGIQGT7e5aOfsHch1g@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 15:13 ` Fabrice Popineau
[not found] ` <CAFgFV9OgzHsAWqi5ma9KWmHX63McYQc1OYrr+xE5kMKs5AOe1A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83a7zgeu21.fsf-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 19:59 ` Fabrice Popineau
[not found] ` <CAFgFV9O=UaWgVxOG0U=131vr9LrhwpsATmA369HMubTvao8r_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 20:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-22 23:06 ` [Msys2-users] " Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <877euh52xe.fsf-WS8JpuUeUJXe9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 7:15 ` Fabrice Popineau
[not found] ` <CAFgFV9Njr1ZwTU4YBEezuMtz9cjsf1fBpin3=X0xCs1PeGBW7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 7:24 ` Fabrice Popineau [this message]
2017-11-23 18:09 ` [Msys2-users] " Phillip Lord
2017-11-23 18:08 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-23 14:02 ` Richard Stallman
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2017-11-23 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <834lplari3.fsf-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-24 17:51 ` Richard Stallman
2017-11-23 18:17 ` [Msys2-users] " Phillip Lord
2017-11-20 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83fu99dk21.fsf-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 22:12 ` Angelo Graziosi via Msys2-users
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