* Default language environment not calling set-language-environment-hook?
@ 2013-11-24 23:41 Matthias Meulien
2013-11-25 16:32 ` Davis Herring
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From: Matthias Meulien @ 2013-11-24 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
I ran emacs with a minimal `~/.emacs' limited to:
(add-hook 'set-language-environment-hook (lambda ()
(message "Language environment is "
current-language-environment)))
(message "Language environment is " current-language-environment)
The *Messages* buffer contains: "Language environment is ". But
when asking for the description of the variable
`current-language-environment' I get:
Its value is "French" Original value was "English"
I was expecting the `set-language-environment-hook' to be called.
Am I wrong?
--
Matthias
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2013-11-24 23:41 Default language environment not calling set-language-environment-hook? Matthias Meulien
@ 2013-11-25 16:32 ` Davis Herring
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From: Davis Herring @ 2013-11-25 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
> (add-hook 'set-language-environment-hook (lambda ()
> (message "Language environment is "
> current-language-environment)))
> (message "Language environment is " current-language-environment)
>
> The *Messages* buffer contains: "Language environment is ".
Not your question, but you surely want to put %s (or %S) into your
`message' format string so that the value of
`current-language-environment' is actually printed.
Davis
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* Re: Default language environment not calling set-language-environment-hook?
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@ 2013-11-25 23:29 ` Matthias Meulien
2013-11-26 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Matthias Meulien @ 2013-11-25 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Davis Herring <herring@lanl.gov> writes:
> Not your question, but you surely want to put %s (or %S) into
> your `message' format string so that the value of
> `current-language-environment' is actually printed.
You are right. Thanks!
Nonetheless, `set-language-environment-hook' is not called at startup
with emacs trunk.
--
Matthias
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2013-11-25 23:29 ` Matthias Meulien
@ 2013-11-26 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-26 9:16 ` Matthias Meulien
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-11-26 3:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Meulien; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Matthias Meulien <orontee@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:29:36 +0100
>
> Nonetheless, `set-language-environment-hook' is not called at startup
> with emacs trunk.
I think this is because set-language-environment is called by
startup.el before it processes your .emacs, so the hook is not yet
set.
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* Re: Default language environment not calling set-language-environment-hook?
2013-11-26 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2013-11-26 9:16 ` Matthias Meulien
2013-11-26 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Matthias Meulien @ 2013-11-26 9:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel
> I think this is because set-language-environment is called by
> startup.el before it processes your .emacs, so the hook is not yet
> set.
That's it!
Should not the docstring of `set-language-environment-hook' warn
developers about this? Something like:
During the start-up process, `set-language-environment' is called
before the user init file is read. Thus adding functions to that
hook in the user init file will have no effect while setting the
default language environment.
--
Matthias
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* Re: Default language environment not calling set-language-environment-hook?
2013-11-26 9:16 ` Matthias Meulien
@ 2013-11-26 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-11-26 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Meulien; +Cc: emacs-devel
> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:16:43 +0100
> From: Matthias Meulien <orontee@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> Should not the docstring of `set-language-environment-hook' warn
> developers about this? Something like:
>
> During the start-up process, `set-language-environment' is called
> before the user init file is read. Thus adding functions to that
> hook in the user init file will have no effect while setting the
> default language environment.
Sounds far-fetched to me. People who want to hook into the startup
procedure should rather use a couple of hooks provided specifically
for that purpose, like before-init-hook, after-init-hook, etc.
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