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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210391 Archived-At: --001a1144da405c3abb05437e26ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Simen! On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claudel wrote: > Thanks for clarifying! This makes a lot of sense. > > Cheers, > Cl=C3=A9ment. > > On 2016-12-12 15:38, Simen Heggest=C3=B8yl wrote: > > Hi Cl=C3=A9ment. > > > > More than a year ago I contacted the author of the original JSON mode, > > Josh Johnston, to see if we could get JSON mode included in Emacs. At > > the same time it seemed like a good idea to remove its basis on JS mode= , > > since various issues come from it [1, 2]. We would also need to either > > get its two MELPA dependencies into GNU ELPA or replace them. > > > > I had already written a JSON mode that I had been using privately for a > > while that didn't depend on JS mode, and that didn't depend on any MELP= A > > packages (it uses json.el bundled with Emacs for the same > > functionality). I suggested we merge our two modes before moving it int= o > > Emacs or GNU ELPA. Josh then pointed out that everything from the old > > mode was already implemented in the new one. So while the new JSON > > mode's code isn't directly based on the old JSON mode's, it carries on > > its name, its functionality, and the same default keybindings. > > > > Lastly we agreed to try and make the transition to the new mode as > > smooth as possible for the users. I've released the new mode with a > > lower version number than Josh's, so Josh's mode will still be installe= d > > for those who have configured MELPA. By doing so I was hoping to get > > more testing, and finding out whether the new approach is really > > better. If it turns out that it's not, we'll just retract it. If it > > turns out that it is, we'll increase the version number higher than the > > old mode (for instance 2.0). > > > > -- Simen > > > > [1] https://github.com/joshwnj/json-mode/issues/32 > > [2] https://github.com/joshwnj/json-mode/issues/34 > > > > > > --=20 X-Team (http://x-team.com) --001a1144da405c3abb05437e26ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Simen!

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claud= el <clement.pit@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for clarifying! This makes a lot of sense.

Cheers,
Cl=C3=A9ment.

On 2016-12-12 15:38, Simen Heggest=C3=B8yl wrote:
> Hi Cl=C3=A9ment.
>
> More than a year ago I contacted the author of the original JSON mode,=
> Josh Johnston, to see if we could get JSON mode included in Emacs. At<= br> > the same time it seemed like a good idea to remove its basis on JS mod= e,
> since various issues come from it [1, 2]. We would also need to either=
> get its two MELPA dependencies into GNU ELPA or replace them.
>
> I had already written a JSON mode that I had been using privately for = a
> while that didn't depend on JS mode, and that didn't depend on= any MELPA
> packages (it uses json.el bundled with Emacs for the same
> functionality). I suggested we merge our two modes before moving it in= to
> Emacs or GNU ELPA. Josh then pointed out that everything from the old<= br> > mode was already implemented in the new one. So while the new JSON
> mode's code isn't directly based on the old JSON mode's, i= t carries on
> its name, its functionality, and the same default keybindings.
>
> Lastly we agreed to try and make the transition to the new mode as
> smooth as possible for the users. I've released the new mode with = a
> lower version number than Josh's, so Josh's mode will still be= installed
> for those who have configured MELPA. By doing so I was hoping to get > more testing, and finding out whether the new approach is really
> better. If it turns out that it's not, we'll just retract it. = If it
> turns out that it is, we'll increase the version number higher tha= n the
> old mode (for instance 2.0).
>
> -- Simen
>
> [1] https://github.com/joshwnj/json-mode/iss= ues/32
> [2] https://github.com/joshwnj/json-mode/iss= ues/34
>
>




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