From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Filipe Silva Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please explain the FSF copyright assignment thing Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:56:47 -0300 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113ddef23bbda30554385540" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499975850 2987 195.159.176.226 (13 Jul 2017 19:57:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers , Yuri Khan To: Richard Copley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 13 21:57:26 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dVkEn-0000VD-CM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:57:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVkEs-0002Qf-Sd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:57:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47634) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVkEE-0002QP-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVkED-0007zB-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:56:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22a]:34534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVkED-0007yQ-C9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id l130so55383651oib.1 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:56:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=P5Q8JOREM5TuMlByW/jNJ5ALIr5t84wqesxvElFXehI=; b=HiyY6FOxSQwVQq3JsyDoyq8jLto32p5SC+GDrbOCVjyreA4n751OxrlZD2+CqzgzF9 xz/7m2q6+cyiUDkkqi2S7d1tTvxNveV9oey+JTk9aiglfSrdW0qwdvsb9LAhLGEaxJZ4 Sy4PZNQNYjClUFv7Ezm4tV/O/KG21942oFjE9ZO7sFnQW7JgyHjFyf+7lQ1xLicwdJZZ szGrNNTD932y1Y1SK0+r26e8Ulu52IkdI/ChEqoO7tNM0GP6kWeg/txgnPy3Dr4Tnpmg THgnhOXOevroQ8j867ZQU08EIusPtU0Dys26Njk1io8pADW3t5qrdt6Ce9dL3Q7ZYPd7 Hjvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=P5Q8JOREM5TuMlByW/jNJ5ALIr5t84wqesxvElFXehI=; b=kvhTPqgRaufzbm+lQWM5fTune5nq+6wYKV0uLzZRQ44Xf1shIkXOHrXFi7IGlWmpBy CZdCm7hEyYQlGczoBjE+rAOhcSbiWQjMURpAGxSFH65fuJwcmrpCoTL2kI9ORJzVAtdH sgc2v7ILcvdoPAUappu+a2qlzIjVkl00BGJFuG3rgCd0FoW5cUpoKZqKYgKduBCHhYSO fa9yJnE0kOUhuNUtbIP+sq+8JDzntfWkns0Nz+avXNaFUnXSzdgPQiYZoxuCbnMIDn5y uTPr96A1klv+k4Xy/Pgo3fX9q3bgHe+s63ZdAYXihOEaywRm8IKQrpLxFAK8YSxdVczH qvcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112PL/l0IsCUQ8KIb0bVgBAFu1oqCzgtf4NjYduvL+6bqaxkcaNK RC2mG9jV8g2t/brC6xOMvrZXzPyqeA== X-Received: by 10.202.67.66 with SMTP id q63mr3269948oia.33.1499975808431; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.182.85.69 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.182.85.69 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:56:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216612 Archived-At: --001a113ddef23bbda30554385540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes I've tries that. It does not go as deep into the question as this thread. I mean the fact that a copyright owner can go rogue and change a license alone without asking if the other copyright owners would agree and at the same time all the copyright owners must act in cooperation in order to enforce a license. This is is a sad state of affairs. On Jul 13, 2017 16:31, "Richard Copley" wrote: On 13 July 2017 at 20:23, Filipe Silva wrote: > Ok, now I finally understand. > > but this must be explained in a clear, visible way. This is not at all > clear, anywhere. Did you try searching the web for "FSF copyright assignment"? It's explained in several published essays. > What a sad state of affairs we are in regarding these legal aspects. Could you please explain why you think so? --001a113ddef23bbda30554385540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes I've tries that. It does not go as deep into= the question as this thread.

I mean the fact that a copyright owner can go rogue and change a lice= nse alone without asking if the other copyright owners would agree and at t= he same time all the copyright owners must act in cooperation in order to e= nforce a license. This is is a sad state of affairs.

On Jul 13, 2017 16:31, "Richard Copley" <= rcopley@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1= 3 July 2017 at 20:23, Filipe Silva <filipe.silva@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, now I finally understand.
>
> but this must be explained in a clear, visible way. This is not at all=
> clear, anywhere.

Did you try searching the web for "FSF copyright assignment"= ;? It's
explained in several published essays.

> What a sad state of affairs we are in regarding these legal aspects.
Could you please explain why you think so?

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