From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rostislav Svoboda Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: To non-native English writers: expunging the solecism "This allows to do something." Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:55:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20160124210602.GA7711@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453740998 14305 80.91.229.3 (25 Jan 2016 16:56:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , "emacs-devel@gnu.org Development" To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 25 17:56:33 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aNkRL-00005L-Ir for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:56:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39718 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aNkRL-0005io-63 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:56:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36715) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aNkRH-0005ia-LQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:56:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aNkRG-0007QO-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:56:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]:36163) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aNkRF-0007Pu-24; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:56:25 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id n1so76986017vkb.3; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 08:56:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=XRv5IwUbtUu4KLgP3YJBJ1rmyH/CFZGKdhvnP+OXYPk=; b=NdB4V5L0bORZadI/QeNvcyhRPbfxuC6v5tlYv692NeK9cOG2D/rdAHZmDlB+XjY9Sa YpjZXFcirsXTaQdM0+2lT6Uwj+iqbRZuWyNcmE5FDi7d9CV3ioyqDuAYB9iVLRkQekei PRywbr50HLnu0LUjQuDMi4zsBWCwpcPgdYUWu/MtaUjfwThjaX/t4nHbg9fKRPn/ZPme 7WYif9Rm5yut13bXFMfmKweajqhr9I446I3Qzb8ZUIpsJgCbWbU8nuousYoPtTcbbNBU g3KqeNfOSmnNbRjEVHC7DL/WTmx+Xk4aYrnHFmo6P1WO3yrLAGNDpBFKD9X44x4p8yFY n0RQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=XRv5IwUbtUu4KLgP3YJBJ1rmyH/CFZGKdhvnP+OXYPk=; b=jY4wTTT4Gfh3/i3EWE3HaiF8AqquxEBpLxWvx1xo7aUXhr+GI4MOloVRCzIksqDJjo lTrHwu8udQ8Av1D/p6fvKS771fPAnsJFx+JTD95MtnQglNB3ZeJ3Jf4FNhs6FGKRsN1p PNJiNxZpCvrD/iTssSIo4MmVIoaabdMpq/yG/tjcT+B2j1hxkWPVzBF9QrSM7yQNQMF4 mU/LaNIAuPf8PLOvMollPo0RZk8RQPT21+WfnOGpnO2OgqGV2c/aXP/8EI8vJ3aSweSP sfy8C7NpgkNQ+sjfLCWiH7D2aYdFku3ijg5oYLDDxR0zghqtuVHlNtKaBmj7eSnN5Uty nmfA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQfKgYLLsXM+shYw6uBK4irFPt9+VZZ2jK6QtOnOhSMBAZ60FkS+qQ5OdxOb7tHpqB5xtTYpvavb5VVOA== X-Received: by 10.31.16.140 with SMTP id 12mr10340531vkq.106.1453740984355; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 08:56:24 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.31.86.199 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 08:55:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198796 Archived-At: > In addition, that formation is unclear > because it fails to say who or what will do the thing. For Slavic language natives like me and Marcin, constructions like "This allows to do something" work perfectly well. Sorry guys :) We simply don't find it to be that important to specify who or what will do things. You know... lazy evaluation at it's best :) > > Well :) > > Wait for about 30 - 35 years at will be. > > That is my fear, which is partly why I'm doing something small to help > prevent it. ;-) That's an uphill struggle, Alan :) Besides, believe me there's nothing to fear about :) Free your mind! :) Bost