From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yasushi SHOJI Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position of line moves depending on visible chars Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 01:40:45 +0900 Message-ID: References: <877fckl7c1.wl@dns1.atmark-techno.com> <83fur82w9v.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1149dc8e69f5160537d783d1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468773668 9212 80.91.229.3 (17 Jul 2016 16:41:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 17 18:41:07 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp7i-0001yO-Qo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:40:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42311 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp7f-00006r-5O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:40:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34953) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp7Z-00006k-ML for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:40:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp7Y-0003gC-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:40:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::233]:34287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp7W-0003fm-O3; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:40:46 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id o67so139989121qke.1; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=/a00Hp2glo+EojjkGuFmDSsulQlNVTCeZAdg8DZcMuI=; b=S3/B1U995Q7C3gOYHSuQdF+0GSXMaPYM2A8I8As3/rP2j31tQRzur+zJQ/T6ep4WeS sBSxBphOp9wZbMnIoBSDEkdo6l7jbtM4vhVMhNBXhOdnJQlX8prpYlOHd+7F467gNcJX lVw1LGLL+7okZCEQ78+Mh1wR0tllFkhwrCDv5F324m/gDyUGVBamNd+l0kpJM+5rkNxR ovq8N8zsVF0cpVO/shFz8wHD6CxmUQPqfQhOgMQ6wxaQy6kjicsdjG7q72xJHExojgym MjQ36dUpRSSuzg8snOPtInpAObfFdELd2/Czl5VdjhJFAGQzwqbwvNDPMustYGE/+DO/ mFeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/a00Hp2glo+EojjkGuFmDSsulQlNVTCeZAdg8DZcMuI=; b=LYFaQEIsuVu1BEsoPzGBBMM8bzilkCL4MHMoQ8B5x000CGcWLRe371RvObiVQVqKGb 7ik/IcKjXOz2KykzGLXu2uJvSPJYXGB4zGjkBH+THxzDu5l5n1JRAln3kBdnHVxk4ALq 800xzBecpQOYsu6wA50+jgurhFZsTJe7iRrDnE30FxQNzNpGrJCBAXvBG2ezUc4q88Lg 25xHDkRfCZuOp7d9F08Dwc/FSeedvozMPfJgxUUPco/YhUdZZiyeXlHjJ+jJ26ORT0yt QxXlzkavE0iXJSlWZdt+4dhyitW3o3YdFLxszViTjCkf3o/L399whSx4uWNoYpSbrhpQ lt4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tItVgEbgAOEBHI65gsbWlPJQh99PnmvCrQgO8wAwcCJuuyUjHroTElm2L9mv1PB6aQkinBbYsA0jvZaHw== X-Received: by 10.55.197.149 with SMTP id k21mr38980233qkl.89.1468773645805; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.55.162.85 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:40:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83fur82w9v.fsf@gnu.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: Hx3zzooJdXSx5N3KqseuC7mdPn8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205780 Archived-At: --001a1149dc8e69f5160537d783d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Eli, Thank your for your comment. On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > This is not a bug, but the intended behavior: Emacs lays out lines > according to what is actually shown. When you scroll the window > horizontally by typing C-e, the lines became less tall, because the > Japanese characters are not shown. That's what I observe. Is there an option to get the old behavior back? If not, would you accept such option, say for 25.2? I'm not oppose to the change but I'm sure this affects many multilingual writers. A vibrating line while typing isn't a good experience. Thanks, -- yashi --001a1149dc8e69f5160537d783d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eli,

Thank your for your comment.

On Sun,= Jul 17, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> This is not a bug, but the in= tended behavior: Emacs lays out lines
> according to what is actually= shown.=C2=A0 When you scroll the window
> horizontally by typing C-e= , the lines became less tall, because the
> Japanese characters are n= ot shown.

That's what I observe.

Is there an option to ge= t the old behavior back?
If not, would you accept such option, say for 2= 5.2?

I'm not oppose to the change but I'm sure this affects = many multilingual
writers.=C2=A0 A vibrating line while typing isn't= a good experience.

Thanks,
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 yashi
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