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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267939 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > One of the reasons Emacs looks kinda old-fashioned is that we use > monospaced fonts all over the place. Now, when programming and stuff, a > monospaced font is preferred, but in other contexts, it looks pretty > old-fashioned. > > So here's my most controversial suggestion ever: > > diff --git a/lisp/faces.el b/lisp/faces.el > index 5b7e0a5aee..e6f65a5901 100644 > --- a/lisp/faces.el > +++ b/lisp/faces.el > @@ -2553,6 +2553,7 @@ mode-line-faces > (defface mode-line > '((((class color) (min-colors 88)) > :box (:line-width -1 :style released-button) > + :inherit variable-pitch > :background "grey75" :foreground "black") > (t > :inverse-video t)) > > In addition to looking nicer, it means we can fit more data into the > mode line. What happened to this? I have noticed that the modus themes has the option `modus-themes-variable-pitch-ui': Use proportional fonts (variable-pitch) in UI elements. This includes the mode line, header line, tab bar, and tab line. It is useful if one wants to experiment with how this works in practice. Just set it to t and `M-x load-theme RET modus-operandi RET'.