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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314479 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2024 13:51:38 +0000 >> From: Jean-Christophe Helary >> Cc: Vincent Bela=C3=AFche , stefankangas@gmail.c= om, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org >> >> > I meant markers specifically for translators, so that it would be easy >> > to detect chunk(s) of text that was/were modified, and update their >> > translations. >> >> Don't you think that would be a bit burdensome for authors? Or do you >> mean semi-automatically? > > If there are markers, then finding the chunks whose translations > should be updated could be scripted, yes. It could be done with an > Emacs Lisp program, for example. A "chunk" here means something like a sentence, or even smaller. It is therefore impractical to add such markers to the source text.