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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267609 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > "Show description of symbol in pertinent manual" >> >> FWIW, the docstring of info-lookup-symbol uses the term >> "relevant manual" > > Yes, I considered that alternative. But IMO "relevant" is a > problematic word. I found an interesting discussion online suggesting that the only difference is that "pertinent" is stronger than "relevant": https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/211792/pertinent-versus-relevant-whats-the-usage-difference I'm not sure it matters much which one we use. I slightly prefer "relevant" as it is the more common word (and therefore easier to understand for non-native speakers of English), but I'm fine with "pertinent" too.