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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275681 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > How come? The only case where I can think of this being distracting is > when using emoticons that may contain parentheses. Basically, prog-modes have font-locking and therefore this doesn't stand out that much. In text-modes, it stands out more. Having slept on this, and thought about it some more, I realize that: a) It is not clear to me how visually distracting this is, given that this is only visible when you move point to a parenthesis. I've lived with and accepted it for years; I'm sure it'll be fine in the future as well. b) It is easy to think of exceptions, when highlighting parenthesis will be very useful even in text-modes. So, on balance, I don't think the drawbacks I see are strong enough reason to object to this change. So I wish to withdraw my objection. I'm not sure this changes much with regards to what will actually happen, but I wanted to put it out there for the record.