From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Where to contribute manual translations ? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314325 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > So, to summarize: > > . Texinfo sources go into the doc/LANG/ subdirectory, under which > there should be the same subdirectories 'emacs', 'lispref', misc' > etc. (we will actually create a directory when the first > translation of the corresponding English manual will be > submitted); > . Texinfo sources of a translation of MANUAL.texi into the language > LANG will be called MANUAL-LANG.texi; > . Info output should go to info/MANUAL-LANG.info (this should be > specified in the @setfilename directive in the Texinfo source). > > OK? Yes, sounds good. > This is something to coordinate with both the Texinfo project and the > downstream distros, I think. Basically, if a user never wants to see > ses-fr.info, that user should not install it in the first place. It > is possible to do something more sophisticated based on the locale, > but that would require coordination with the Texinfo project, and then > how would that support users who, for some reason, want to have > manuals in several languages available? So it sounds a bit > complicated, and I'd say let the sleeping dogs lie at this point. OK, that's fine by me. We can always revisit it later, if it starts becoming a problem. It might not be worth the effort if it only concerns one or two manuals.