From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 21:01:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87y2lkb6kb.fsf@gmail.com> <9A4FA038-CCFD-45DF-8B57-E348AFF951D9@gmail.com> <87sgbsb0eb.fsf@gmail.com> <20200908192854.GA4919@tuxteam.de> <20200908203157.ed63ratwupnwdzjy@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22289"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus , tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 23:02:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFklX-0005hT-Od for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:02:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46262 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFklW-00009P-Qu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:02:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFkkW-0007pG-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-x52d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52d]:37646) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFkkU-0003bI-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:01:55 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id n22so496979edt.4 for ; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 14:01:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ieBA7Cr3B+fBxOKDlsEVwXMJourhNcTNgbf282OO4ho=; b=vCNGV0ciB75g6ebmUdeeEGDdeaZmXDmTf2gVq7b4yJZfbJYP/f8y5aW8Ee12viXxAs uCH46oWjDHyGKZSt9RA6CmbRREzXxxuTrUDyOHrlqcD9LFyltJJJum/HwCCmmNooUxFR J8NTYIQ1WBtaoEQ1pyJu3hbK0NmyysesqECdaXbBmyf9fMDy3rmQZPtrO3BczrcKtEei /wc++CvEX6LhV40oH4kNQP7GGhVJn1bI9GHCYhYVoYrLjIp7Y6v0qh3/sBikgVOp4FEM PH3q3/H0oIGXOuFT9ibuDFdhzb/kqjf9CTg42ekH1xYoEks4YJzrXkf0p6lOkZLbNKN9 dwEA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ieBA7Cr3B+fBxOKDlsEVwXMJourhNcTNgbf282OO4ho=; b=Bvr1bm8ZpBhaNsejmYbGKe+QvGF6g52dRnHtTmnrCqLpqNi+jfDikeVCsq8v8DSmqu K/f5ehpL0UFmvaHvkyChqRqalZwUuh0JxtAt2MkEKFdo2QfnJ+UF9D3jQDl44VfsR5kC dIALy6wE+yY/z15aj7cfzJ6yOHN71f8aYMHJikRN99qWPwEyn3y+f3KDHG60xVKzxlq6 H+FLTn2Gm7SeMFS68OQ6eAcCvTYiyaUYGEvNLEi56HYK1uOK5CtxDqiMw6/Yv295mWVP SoeFlWZaNmDX/98b6yfXTe0a3dskT1l69KWbMu8wxqSXidgwsdehG88m/dT5n57F5nN+ 2JmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53353/7DEWJAsuJV4QZuWCzRUL2KJzqE9epZj7/gIM1bOgf8QlSI 6XUoMN+5rlVi5vjnhm16jruWeOQi2UX/ZitESVE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzVAixMWboN/dEUmfrXrYnoXfoHTe4dpXUq3lPeeIP1hb45iYX6zlpvoffg36FRuQqrZ2JA+0cRFMkF/EXoXSE= X-Received: by 2002:a50:8523:: with SMTP id 32mr994437edr.282.1599598912136; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 14:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 21:01:51 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20200908203157.ed63ratwupnwdzjy@Ergus> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52d; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52d.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254816 Archived-At: Ergus writes: > May we consider to insert use-package, leaf or something similar in > vanilla? Work on use-package is ongoing, see its GitHub issues page where they are sorting out the assignment. I believe I linked the relevant issue on this list a couple of days ago. It is my understanding that the idea is to include it in Emacs itself (rather than only as an ELPA package). > Maybe we don't need them fully but at least a part of their > functionalities could be inserted in packages.el? What do you have in mind?