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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Peter Oliver <p.d.oliver@mavit.org.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tree-sitter maturity (was: My resignation from Emacs development)
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 08:41:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmnU88hBGogM=gTzpfZrLOKRhNy0A+rv5nXTNwN9EWCbCg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ed88fca-788a-fe9f-b6c8-edb2f49751c9@mavit.org.uk>

Peter Oliver <p.d.oliver@mavit.org.uk> writes:

> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024, Stefan Kangas wrote:
>
>> From my point of view, we are still in early days when it comes to
>> the new tree-sitter modes.  For starters, we do not recommend them by
>> default, and some language modes are also not yet ready for
>> prime-time.  I'm not even sure that a majority of distros ship the
>> feature in a useful form yet, but I didn't really check.
>
> It depends on what you mean by useful.  In Fedora, for example, Emacs
> is built with Tree-sitter, but each user has to (ask Emacs to)
> download and compile each parser as they go along.

Thanks.  I meant that one cannot yet use them after simply installing
the "emacs" package, without taking additional steps.

> If any Fedora packagers read this and would like to help with
> packaging the parsers used by Emacs, that would be welcome.  The
> tracking bug is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258924

Thanks for working on this.  Packaging Tree-sitter seems somewhat
challenging, but getting it done is essential if we want to see more
widespread use of Tree-sitter in our user base.

> It’s also worth noting that Tree-sitter itself is somewhat immature;
> the developers say that until it reaches version 1.0, we should be
> wary of potentially unannounced incompatible changes (although they
> are trying harder to avoid this, over time).



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-23 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-20 15:13 My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-20 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 16:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21  6:22   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 10:05     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 11:23       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 11:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 10:29   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 12:26     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-20 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-20 17:04 ` tomas
2024-11-20 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21  2:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-21 12:34   ` Tree-sitter maturity (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Peter Oliver
2024-11-23 13:41     ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2024-11-21 13:01   ` My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 13:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 14:29       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-22  0:01         ` Po Lu
2024-11-22  7:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22  8:14             ` Robert Pluim
2024-11-22  8:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 23:59               ` Po Lu
2024-11-23  6:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 16:29       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22  5:35     ` Adam Porter
2024-11-22  7:24       ` Madhu
2024-11-22  8:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22  9:26           ` Madhu
2024-11-22 12:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 12:40           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 13:06           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 13:39             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 14:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 10:57       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 23:19         ` Adam Porter
2024-11-22 15:36     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 17:48       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23  6:10   ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-23  7:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 11:06       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-23 11:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 12:48           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21  5:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-22 11:36   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 11:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 10:36       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23 11:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 13:39 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-21 19:01   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-21 19:19     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 19:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 19:40 ` Jim Porter
2024-11-21 23:57 ` Po Lu
2024-11-22 17:26 ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-22 17:47   ` Ship Mints
2024-11-22 19:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 19:01   ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23  6:10 ` My resignation from Emacs development Richard Stallman
2024-11-23  8:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23  6:10 ` Richard Stallman

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