From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: terminal scrolling in help Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 10:12:34 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87y24pj6nd.fsf@yandex.com> <83ilvsmzjg.fsf@gnu.org> <834k7cmtg3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17795"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 13 19:13:49 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mwppb-0004Me-Lh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:13:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60408 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwppZ-0006a4-JJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:13:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwpoc-0005tE-Re for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:12:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::52c] (port=40632 helo=mail-pg1-x52c.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwpoS-0002hX-A4; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:12:46 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x52c.google.com with SMTP id l10so4292043pgm.7; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 10:12:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=z0FSEPPL9P2AEj1Zumi9FYR25JGB+Sf9aNNAShGXGLk=; b=IelmM8Zy+Kp56ixyGp843zcNdO9B24XjdFjOCujHbBOVRfFxB2D9pN+SBjvBe8q386 h+uOMU2Log+arbOq1wwKcSlA6UTSz/bvW5sTojVILJ+xAauGH7coDtMXoCbayl7pYDlD FVpHNTRZw/w3LMoKKgTkNrvzCE22VSDV0ogvCANPX9D5gpJ+cGF5KBPEX6UkCb24GMuA geYp0/bvvhGWh9OZB1vLi1rn7ymhkKq5PuJGZ6W8NwiRTBqzy2jKrFzgoFZJpfLul28c HgDGZk3OMO/H1pu/G7avDXxAqelxbJVvfZS37qeiXyh/IjcVEQby3usiYYKV5HXz1Fql DNOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=z0FSEPPL9P2AEj1Zumi9FYR25JGB+Sf9aNNAShGXGLk=; b=dBXw69Qm+AlbPaocGeyH/QrjnO+VpiAodoTiNFRaQ/nohN5oI++UqOSZGSY0BqPxnA VXsRxCOUeWTE5JJkR4DsOa2+ThG0hqR2eWkCO9NBrWtjimZ4YkNraaFaH96KgX2H10fX iA+NcWXJ2N96OnapP3g5aqWDvhg6FbcALV28DHLwV36FThWZT4Mmv4tmUBbwij9szmGa EuFJFwq15IN7/jERRlz6Y2CAHLTDncujwiFHSP8S5KNGEQqUjX9C8CLcPXJjtVgfcgti r9HvQgJoLb1RAWNwLBsbidN7M0Tj8dMz5jcmZd9ySzAvmwtAOugOjMLJEhOEIhbTyixO VWZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531XCYC0GX0/MztJg3zwnBv1DWAoDqhxxuVkmeNG/KuzWQJeqD+I +gvjD8nzFAYN83j6sAzHN1FMJZtklMtMrqVQXlSxKhFv X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwyMiKNLAG+dFlW5mXgrus3A19GZOVWttSBNGZ04Ya0MhKi+yaXckXyP1AhYBN+wU2QYGMAigyDsy3iIgY01+U= X-Received: by 2002:a63:cd:: with SMTP id 196mr113929pga.591.1639419154776; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 10:12:34 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 10:12:34 -0800 In-Reply-To: <834k7cmtg3.fsf@gnu.org> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::52c (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52c; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 6 X-Spam_score: 0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281858 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Can we detect that we are running in a terminal and show SPC and DEL >> there, while showing and on graphical displays? > > We can, but why? PageUp/PageDown are available on some terminals as > well, and SPC/DEL are available on GUI displays. It seems suboptimal to print PageUp/PageDown if they won't work.