From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:11:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="83282"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Yuan Fu , Tim Cross , Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , ndame To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 11:12:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRuNi-000LZU-Ny for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:12:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56296 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRuNh-0001xu-Ry for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:12:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRuN5-0001BN-PN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:11:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRuN0-0007QW-WA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:11:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f173.google.com ([209.85.219.173]:43955) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRuN0-0007PQ-Jh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:11:38 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f173.google.com with SMTP id o198so4662903ybg.10 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 02:11:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5PqYxC0kRzhGb5Zm8fv1sAX9v2FeW3qDTnhjvsGDkMI=; b=ddlrbgEFVAAR8FGeQu4pFkCF/QoFzgU8Vo67mYyQkd7asOJP9wDp95f5KLMWLm1pNN pDWWznw9GCWD4UASflPTUgNrWmilf6ktR6sv6MkCGCVmbhuPwWII2s1zxQCYLvBMouZ0 9+uVPhDX2y3sUWopHFqlib8SwEKIneHciyAf1Oum9VLgJo6k7Bc8UjtkD8Tb2VQzxFhX Cg52oKywvuLIqvlUFNulAJqMUm4Oxb54359CvSAfC0FVzThIiMW8HgutQ4hCv6ejMJ4v m72iGsRGPOrr7QVxZl3RGULOczvFelTgy38aNMJBPoFoAeWP//WUgJaxmCZJeMlHU8VA PwbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pubqgfmw9VW/VlugDzJDRBhPnZLX47Am4K22f+jTVlx/Z2zOtSdJ WCUYNN3KbEdnMlH+R01WmtuDw4CFCRugA1MuwbU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypK4JjfCjTH1M+8rzhG0k2JdDUNGnkfQHjyjhBFbzZ0M+QZk/lNZ7UPYTzyHEy/EMUIHPGLwpMrcE8l8yYlRLsA= X-Received: by 2002:a25:c402:: with SMTP id u2mr13477207ybf.231.1587719497723; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 02:11:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.219.173; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-f173.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/24 05:11:37 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.219.173 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247677 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: > I believe giving a little more responsibilities to developers is also a > fundamental stimulus to involve them more. FWIW, I think Andrea is right on the money here and in her previous message. Of course, giving out commit access more freely will cause occasional problems and inconveniences. I think this drawback is heavily outweighed by the potential benefits. Best regards, Stefan Kangas