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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267610 Archived-At: Howard Melman writes: >>>> R Show given manual >>> >>> For w above you say "a given command" maybe these two >>> should match? >> >> Eli suggested "Show specified command", which I think is okay. I'm not ^^^^^^^^^ specific >> sure they should match as they are far apart, and IMHO they read a bit >> better this way. > > I prefer the word "specified" too. I don't think their > distance makes any difference. I'd used specified in both places. OK, I'm going with: "Show which key runs a specific command" "Show a specific manual" >>>> S Find symbol in Info manual for current programming language Eli suggested "Show description of symbol in pertinent manual". > I was just referring to it use in "Debugging GNU Emacs". I > think that should be "Debugging Emacs". The "GNU" should stay > in "(GNU General Public License)" and also in the warranty > description. Oh, right. Yes, that makes more sense; removed.