From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:02:26 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6s6bkrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87czx2ifyp.fsf@telefonica.net> <20210214212009.GA20646@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2665"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 15 00:03:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lBQQV-0000Zm-H1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 00:03:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58646 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBQQT-0004jN-Bz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 18:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBQPR-00041r-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 18:02:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-x42e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::42e]:43542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBQPM-0001gz-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 18:02:33 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id c11so3092085pfp.10 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:02:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pVIZhA2nrPPRvmd/b1jZF3cCssbRhSSrznJJA9KCpNo=; b=XCtXkNw40E+lOskzZ4SVDwFNePd/1PkfP8scpDx0tCFZe9/YdMJFhGf7WSnfzULbSu /F5wy+AH/mNgXglsZPEoOlrWcuPwFOJnRRS4yZaFUt6YKwI/lDKdAuYgbId1FRS7fd8P 0CnWD+veVYMptT88CXQzJZCYxnNJvwBcKBaKcb94yIp9opcqhTKIR3jMoAOIECCh7Qpq +HNkaXT4qywUGIWUoYmfJCd1IXCxkX8XAWIJQbyFtEQiq5lbMTuTXleG9Vgmf34Gdjdf FmUuMdWhgxHyyxh5sRkCrrgO6AANEGZrcd+R9h0LWvmm+0Tnh6pV0ovmx37K8dlaH+PJ 865w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=pVIZhA2nrPPRvmd/b1jZF3cCssbRhSSrznJJA9KCpNo=; b=Yvf7o5DyMyN9wAkzdRurP1fWJrGVCsmIdkaeQ+RZCykUc++/1PrO7dO9JJMbtBQ+Au VYECyJ/ypRKlL0Z3Yf6CtMQWn/CShDASaslKtxIGRTUQNaNpNEpVwiocjFGm1tSGFzSk ZnCs2OH1STdaWgA7d86mOqhDg8A2ogvBtHiudsAQ9rTsQVvP7FXmzf5wO0CIZovf/zKa HpzN/jBikM3kE4Y3bg3BmWSY9Gjlhgu3O7CiorXDkwRmooYZU0/ZSYObpKh2WLrn0M3n 9CdbTSXoynZsQaIguSdCwJCPVdoGgKwxnn1nRCJyktTlqUJ8jKw+BBpq52C0ZayzSq47 qgjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531tj+POnBwvnTaoWG375VfI9VPxg88MLb2E6YK+7vxLXsI8ZIla IXoiQAJzPuQmyzUFuTiNAW6MytxSVwMDQ1bEiE59cKhe X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw1ddNT2w8ESkZQ1EutOVcRt5P58NWgfyOxA2aEuv3unkawAGt7pognnXfL8EjgalqGtzEcKlCzAp5P6g5hOqg= X-Received: by 2002:a63:e108:: with SMTP id z8mr12420428pgh.363.1613343746688; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:02:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:02:26 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20210214212009.GA20646@tuxteam.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::42e; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x42e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264792 Archived-At: writes: > On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 08:25:14PM +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > [...] > >> For the way I use M-x, I absolutely need what you call "irrelevant" >> commands. Suggesting that these "confuse and overload" me is not a nice >> thing to do. > > That's something I feel uneasy about, too. Whatever (however smart) selection > criteria, I fear, won't match my (possibly weird) preferred criteria. Sometimes > I learn by seeing "irrelevant" options, and I do care for that. Those use-cases would be covered by an option to turn this filtering off, right?