From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: News from the lexical world Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:23:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <834kgc4ykj.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtu33ea7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19921"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, raman@google.com To: Andrea Corallo , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 12 15:24:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVwYE-0004vY-Qv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 15:24:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49676 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVwYD-0004Tr-SI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52930) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVwXP-0003V3-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:23:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-x102d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::102d]:45855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVwXN-00080k-RF; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:23:35 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x102d.google.com with SMTP id nm3-20020a17090b19c3b029014e1bbf6c60so2916155pjb.4; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 06:23:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2S5ATsmMm3RN6+ByAaU2rRfcRWanUEUl2YV6hT777fk=; b=selp8hu/UMxicfkdlxlQmtduD+hNM+W1QNQCRaXm+Wl5smoVuz2S4K27ru07FlhmbK XBHYRK4ezqfuIrLfWLwmwvZbQdg7f8UPnvXuHHX5p8+i4HPrfbcREoOCiH0iCJfvQfEj lk6OSp2RMcJHoex5roZaHJYhnhRd+Rk5sfMPKomj6WKKWbnqmnHUL/Iw+99yoIB05yjj XjGfMpQzEarsxzoGyNmU1UnHiszGMRtTbibDnojF6Q0kgPZ7+E4s4wMP3KOB32ltmg9O J2bp/swRaxm88IHQpexg/JaNV9no2gznn/0uHYEr/CtJN1M/mhLln4t8FoLzZPQaF942 22dQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2S5ATsmMm3RN6+ByAaU2rRfcRWanUEUl2YV6hT777fk=; b=ANXJkWxA0RE/iHE3RUT5XHbVmroIo1XdO5l8cRyojsvygi5+FayDbqH/agC81u8D3b sXZnpOv+AlzwNJWxSolOzJhTHpd/r1CrfbWZO7MHNQ+zyUO5B2NkcuAQHI83JYE82o8v wNAFB8B55KLWVCGre5J/YfD7+NEKqpMHiGbX7Eud9wdA+BnP1nXJJrwT6y1hpT77vUit Ch6V/Z57Eh1enLMhvvoElWfNGRB7YW3PL1JlN9pNLTZcmyVLG47KL0Q8dvHqRErj5Zi1 GevbiO1bi4RGQRvUfLW3FxYhICMLuGe6Qxl66b0icMdft+TkLDFkwbBHvI9Xivd/mVEi uOSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Pn2qeGGPbSpm6uHENAfzyvWEByZphEaIQbesI1x50eMph5Mmb eIr1Q6Sv/OzqL1zqcwC+prwAO6+yQv8rbwCPU3S0Ru7Z X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxlMHyJ+34Yy3Yvu3WPb1LhaycmQv11kaC/f1AnTzJ6ZoBOADxcO6XwYnoEVc5T0IbQu4pePPDaGV8lOGSd/OE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4085:: with SMTP id l5mr4219094pjg.104.1618233812105; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 06:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:23:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102d; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x102d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267958 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." writes: >>> But we can say that the native compiler works better on lexical code as >>> on dynamic one just gives-up on any Lisp optimization :) >> >> Yes, this should definitely be documented. > > Where do you think would be the best place to document it? This provides a real incentive to convert code to lexical-binding. My vote would be for the ELisp manual, to give it as high visibility as possible. Even better if we could also mention it in NEWS.