From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : New key binding syntax Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:31:40 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <2345943.K4Yyc4ZcoQ@galex-713.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28169"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Alexandre Garreau Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 12:32:59 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfey-00071O-KJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 12:32:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40786 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfew-0001Si-IO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:32:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfdo-0008Gv-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:31:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e] (port=41911 helo=mail-pl1-x62e.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfdm-0006Yb-5B; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:31:43 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id k4so4955569plx.8; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:31:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ok+PXjXp/qOB8sI9CA5B9/33M11Sr+TER4mNLXnFMEI=; b=A/9ReUZPM/TIfxZ/MepCRdfyQ0KrzP//Nq77xNODZja2zZCpPkswE8XBZuMDIvxIm9 w00S7gjb4lgUIKfQuQVkuAAcb+mS7j6TZtuOqbII84Ue+KRfwfB8yAx3JcjtkhezHqgO s9yMBeqQYmCaNl+xS/PrdQF30vu27cGTg6XvnH+u9KNZrKLiPWfaOuw72wMVvc+SFkK/ FpLkI+f2lBvkJ07Vj83wQF3X8BJDza6xxJsSpXX9QYX1TYlK2M4JshegWzpVa3quCx1q ZsFNSoaYMLDljRUkjbihD2Cfq6vlDG4LosdCBgTSb8Oa7tY+w1SFzOndUrdKsh3x8npp 6PZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ok+PXjXp/qOB8sI9CA5B9/33M11Sr+TER4mNLXnFMEI=; b=gS7AsD79vT7m44J50Ry5Xuwu9/M1dk6z0xN4B0RsKoA6BuM0gLZWFonxz6Vp9tD7x7 uOO62HbaruH1MSXsZce19gJ3lTKrFtrvvPDKWJZ4VylgdMTwdoRr4wIvTVJC4tX3I/I6 +tE5OJZzPuF/BGdSmuhQYC9bm9XY1kNHgfIB9RwfWBhdebz1mTczkcvQKvnL8cUiF6qA dZhybdWVbwClpiFyJqcinhJcAOdLXAeAcF0yCW4wYwv9y+UVzy+0ARFlGXQ6HpnJVTd5 N0FPDnc2UdJ2HLNg2+m92QftPTRKhYSXP9VA2gR/EhQ/VoQRgMbzFporJlX/DSp/zUk/ E/pA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532RdqSnxlDYhyUx8C1d0hvl/vd4GbwvjQZAlR6iK9TnOchrq0yx U2Db9z9k46xOSWc0QoHqUsDBMx69BTnygN99Jygqc4jj X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyfeiZpr+pOVxPcUOt2GhrhWTk//wmjVOW2o9mR4vCaJtU/I/vF4FjGkGgidJZKGwuYgGlkJYHpPeqv3pzpx7s= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:e294:b0:143:86a8:c56d with SMTP id o20-20020a170902e29400b0014386a8c56dmr65467992plc.22.1637235100402; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:31:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:31:40 -0800 In-Reply-To: X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279674 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > Most software use that convention, > > Not in my experience. I have never seen + used to indicate > keyboard modifier keys. Always C-x, never C+x. Here are some prominent examples: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/gedit-shortcut-keys.html.en https://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-concepts-shortcuts.html