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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274848 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: > FWIW, I too do not see why ` would be "ugly". I attach screenshots of > what that character looks like in ten popular programming fonts; each > shows the nine (!) possible conventions, together with the Unicode quotes= . This shows that Unicode quotes consistently look good, while the others look antiquated at best. The single apostrophes on both sides ('like this') is also okay, but still worse from a typographic standpoint. IMO, we should automatically display in comments and docstrings whatever quote character the user prefers according to `text-quoting-style', and automatically insert the correct quote character when typing "'". At least for docstrings and messages, what would be even better than any markers is to display prose in a variable font and code (including symbols, of course) in a monospace font, with no markers. That is the style used elsewhere, and it is clear and avoids visual distractions. > What would perhaps be welcome is a user option to ask Emacs to display > apostrophes as acutes in `foobar' (and possibly another option to ask > Emacs to use `=C2=B4 instead of =E2=80=98=E2=80=99 in messages, errors an= d help buffers). Are you looking for `text-quoting-style'?