From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Helpful in Emacs? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:20:45 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3207"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: me@wilfred.me.uk, Emacs developers , =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 10 08:21:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mOZup-0000fs-JN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:21:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54538 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOZuo-0007J7-Db for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:21:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48782) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOZuF-0006eL-J5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:20:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f53.google.com ([209.85.216.53]:33715) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOZuE-0006ab-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:20:59 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f53.google.com with SMTP id mi6-20020a17090b4b4600b00199280a31cbso652887pjb.0 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 23:20:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PExvwzXZMUK69Dc3p9VV4bCztG10YeHvSOBqdn/hsNc=; b=K4qcveYPNa6V8HV5XIpLnonLtOG8On/1eFIBYjAchYpk14NvBqXiwPWIcWj1KHrYKS PCC733wJlDKeSNdDTn4POh+nEJ815toaYfdHO3MIfBdtczDz5cAahQ1xPTcCkdRsDXfm o4HB86sEr4ni1atGYu3RLT+Tn9E/Gj/6PD3u+YfXpyCtp+acWtX2+BDKxJsMzi6zQ+5C lCCBKmVUdLTPwFU/nvWxHc29xcANvAiFsuyfRb00aYHUTfNDeqB/Ex8eAD+9RaeKg4dC Q/zlk6S36Zxa2SXYWx0xHXF7c61+5q5GY6H7Qmx1J3xkL6wZxWxl9DeUxnNHTQ6d3hsC G82g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531u1em0ngyRFVUZZKRZbWzkgypk+P2w2PLE6jp9xwcQdF8LpwCc 5QK9btBH19txFcjo7oegrJe0r7+4TCtvjL2BELc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy082iEdicDp2El7XcufVFhqjeolEfWYsG0IWxEHEVYaKpYHmtac1iA+dEACl5FCH+yRGIe7cbZ5HZ4sBqamDo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:7c42:: with SMTP id e2mr7748727pjl.132.1631254856270; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 23:20:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.216.53; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-f53.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274493 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > Anyway for extracting something from helpful, there is still need > for original author(s) to do the fsf paperwork, and to be willing to donate > their code to Emacs. Indeed, that's the best starting point. Until we can get that sorted out, the rest of this discussion is mostly hypothetical. I hope the authors of helpful.el are interested.