From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: db48x@db48x.net, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 02:58:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmmeeuhwW+eardX89YbyhKytOdKnWv_Lpp+e_FYp+nyzjg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a6ijdnzv.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> The idea is to make the programmer explicitly say yes to using these
>> characters. (Or at the very least give them a way to say no, but I'd
>> much prefer the former.)
>
> IMNSHO, that would be a nuisance. IOW, this cure is much worse than
> the disease.
I very much disagree that byte-compiler warnings would be "worse than
the disease". Why should any user be so very inconvenienced by that?
Security will always be at odds with convenience. The question is one
of striking a balance between the two.
In this case, I think asking users to add one line of code to those rare
files that need to use these control characters seems like a price worth
paying to improve security in Emacs Lisp as a whole.
Yes, it'll ask more from users that want to write Emacs Lisp with
strings and comments in RTL languages. But they can also choose to do
nothing and live with the byte-compiler warnings instead.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-05 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-02 12:57 Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-02 13:18 ` Po Lu
2021-11-02 13:54 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 15:21 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 16:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-02 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 17:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 18:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 21:28 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:41 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 18:20 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-03 19:02 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:58 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:21 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:16 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 7:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:06 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 8:44 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-03 18:45 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:35 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 20:45 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 20:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 8:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:54 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 6:00 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-04 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 10:41 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 11:03 ` Po Lu
2021-11-04 11:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 11:34 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 14:10 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 17:04 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-05 23:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-06 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 19:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-04 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 23:32 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 2:23 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 3:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 5:21 ` code annotations Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 5:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 5:23 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 6:13 ` Po Lu
2021-11-05 7:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 8:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 9:58 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-11-05 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 13:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 23:33 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-06 0:54 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-06 10:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08 19:58 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-08 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08 21:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-09 3:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 13:58 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2021-11-06 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 17:09 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2021-11-06 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 8:09 ` tomas
2021-11-06 1:09 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 9:34 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-04 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 21:13 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-04 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 20:18 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Tim Cross
2021-11-03 0:28 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 1:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 1:59 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 9:59 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 11:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-03 11:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 12:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 12:41 ` tomas
2021-11-03 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 14:46 ` tomas
2021-11-03 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:34 ` tomas
2021-11-03 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 14:29 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 16:01 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 11:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-03 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 18:52 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 19:28 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 19:41 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 22:03 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 8:50 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-03 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 18:53 ` Manuel Giraud
2021-11-03 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:15 ` Manuel Giraud
2021-11-04 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 18:16 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-02 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:17 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-02 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 17:24 ` [authors: default bidi-display-reordering is set to t] (was: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful) Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:31 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 15:13 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 13:42 ` tomas
2021-11-02 14:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:43 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-03 15:07 ` Reini Urban
2021-11-03 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-04 7:50 ` Reini Urban
2021-11-04 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 18:53 ` Unicode confusables " Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-05 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 11:56 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-06 12:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 13:10 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-06 13:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 21:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-10 15:47 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters " Dmitry Gutov
2021-11-10 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-10 17:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
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