From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pushing the mark from a primitive like goto-char Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 08:56:00 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40123"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Philipp Stephani , =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 28 15:57:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kttyB-000AKc-Fs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 15:57:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51096 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kttyA-0001Uj-I6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:57:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kttwT-0000cw-Gs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:56:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x62b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::62b]:35499) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kttwN-0005d5-LH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:56:13 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id g3so5747794plp.2 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 06:56:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=6dAl6d/cCpq5iWtBimhOTtcT8/Msgm6gvuoJTWluenY=; b=DQmA8s/I0Dr0tkEif19TWXSlh4mxFyDtr7ISik6tZwoMS2oKsCs+RL5QQzmRH3uvLK YyMY6X44EGqs2jgpH1PuoMkQ3ijnf7gtgfHlV9SzKGTidhDPkSo2ZM6Iv0bylVKZLB9v tnAPf+T01chBEv7dkZ/2MRrAAM4pSlbD9abLOyr8mHgHrF/YzYMsIwnkavNM+hRCHlio PlMuyNrC98beXb+xOgK1ZSriIKznku7qb0hBSR8Ei/XmVH6sGk60RTH/s/RxybRFdh0q EVGLP1o6scv2yu9hHNcLOcWCNcxIz8Z2rFLd4cZyv66oWkUkb2Id6sHVb1r/4NVxAFws klFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6dAl6d/cCpq5iWtBimhOTtcT8/Msgm6gvuoJTWluenY=; b=mFk/+Sw+rgXK8cxxO6Gzl2FrPqQcI10uKZm89l4F0RPJ4BJT2bvqQLuowPAQftx9+C f+BI8+9Mnq8c03dScN+gw3+CLclpowsXNHZRf8X6/ykabOXa5sEtumiPf41hqGgYN2Bh IdMtPwW/qjlUvT/r90gsUGxeVhtLbSd6gaLSS42zHcs2IMaQrM2kLQYqf6h8Yzg+JkS4 YsIVLOe5zeTGDsjUu1+3b162Dq4VW72TOQz9I09cKDSf6eC1l3QiTXUed+xj82c/Tn25 mJlm1r1vm7e8K30nQUirBf1WKOE+9ksi/RkD9mAzS5uD1oOkj6JqvRos4VlkcNFqlBFu ++6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530eIj0O3NElC1py+HQYEtjEOZn5nwOGbGDoR6Yw4snC5wbhG4qD eeLTIPgyoepy4tvSo25t2kvI5NeSf4R4gLO/hQs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyXq/mi/ZXEXD430Kqc/3quXTzmKCHQ90Y3jpO3oHltxftQZNfUsPY1iCfzDdwnJJOgVbJer8FBXgETWoCyHb4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:100e:: with SMTP id gm14mr21287926pjb.179.1609167360660; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 06:56:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 08:56:00 -0600 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62b; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262006 Archived-At: Philipp Stephani writes: >> goto-char is an interactive function that has the potential to take you >> long distances, so it might be a good idea, for user convenience, to >> push the mark as a documented side effect (is it a good idea?). > > goto-char is a low-level primitive that's used pervasively in Emacs > Lisp code. I think that pushing the mark would be a way too drastic > change. Agreed. But would it perhaps make sense to push the mark only when it is called interactively? Or to replace `M-g c' with a new command that also pushes mark?