From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 18:35:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <266155d4-f9c0-8ed3-8df5-32feea171076@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="60345"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 06 00:35:51 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jW6AJ-000Fby-P9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:35:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jW6AI-0002Rr-QV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 18:35:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jW69n-0001x8-Jc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 18:35:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f193.google.com ([209.85.219.193]:40541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jW69m-0000Cf-1M; Tue, 05 May 2020 18:35:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f193.google.com with SMTP id e16so2122523ybn.7; Tue, 05 May 2020 15:35:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3hLRJtl8w9wARYikG+eU98OPfwyUWG7wK0lwIJWxGWk=; b=XOU2PPq1QZhT+YuxOs9cUNPKJG422f4YKjopQtSTq8kylsfEjLmZ48CQ/Wy6dVTW4K UvffESVTag9hqETac+BHbHeUqHoQEtIM9fL6iRqQd3u2RreXbCtvcAsel92Y/dbkm2Fb PnSjOMnODkSQA80JAKD3TmQVeFw45E/IVXCw2+M4vYhoHsJp1dm7V0HFTfiXMoPCvQTe Nd+jxKIfusCtVxbfH2walqTOO6AqJzSfQNtnKw+dbvBtINwZKgKdQ+XDe6+1ulh3B4Is PgyS6fu0e4vw+T9RvRd9NaRj/kWsWxrFi35Hr7C81dYtvVl0FKO3Q1cZeFsKUqRkzNFI ZQJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZohRh9u6ZqnsUleuKM8pMBrCgVosv2gXe67c9rKLnlxpwuDEAk Qr/Gg4bNgkPP1qcZ1sqQdxWaUGumIUP14Rsywtk8kg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLIXEbunTSbkLa7RUcOQyc/Ce8Y2MwZUswCjKso714EyUL+JPQ7Y+Ykli01RhYlye6WhffsDxl5qWoed07ZCkg= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:4cf:: with SMTP id u15mr9371235ybp.43.1588718116499; Tue, 05 May 2020 15:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:35:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.219.193; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-f193.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/05 18:35:16 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249057 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > We've recently > > discussed that our copy dash.el is out of sync with recent > > development, and we have coffee-mode.el before that. > > Would someone with good social skills like to ask the developers of > dash to move their development into GNU ELPA, or ask why they have not > done so? I am sure they can see the advantage of having their latest > version available through Emacs. It seems no one has volunteered yet. But I'm not sure what exactly is involved here. All I can see in elpa.git is that there is a pointer in externals-list to the dash repository? So why isn't it updated exactly? Sorry, I don't know how this is all supposed to work. Hmm, looking closer. Is it enough for the package maintainer to just push the latest changes to the 'externals/dash' branch in addition to the original repository? > > Is there something we could do to avoid such a situation before it > > arises? To my mind, we really need package authors to push > > (figuratively speaking) their changes to us, rather than us having to > > pull their changes. > > Could we make explicit arrangements with the package developers, about > continued maintainance of the package within GNU ELPA, as part of > arranging to include the package in GNU ELPA? Do we already do this? Does anyone know the answer to this? Best regards, Stefan Kangas