From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 0161c9d 1/2: Load all generic-x.el modes unconditionally Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:28:20 -0600 Message-ID: References: <20210209160550.18823.10795@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210209160551.832FB20AD1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87o8gti2ln.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg65jffx.fsf@gnu.org> <83im71j96z.fsf@gnu.org> <83czx8k3gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg64hqzj.fsf@gnu.org> <83im6zj1bo.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0reh6l6.fsf@gnu.org> <83eehmh07n.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12789"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 11 22:29:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAJX9-0003DR-K0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 22:29:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33596 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAJX8-00062k-L4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:29:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52016) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAJVg-00055w-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:28:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f46.google.com ([209.85.216.46]:56207) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAJVf-00081N-47; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:28:24 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f46.google.com with SMTP id cv23so4177973pjb.5; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 13:28:21 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fxbjv5QfVBOcjY0jpWdMhymce+FnzJVK38KrA6iLpG4=; b=VvQhd4qYoWS6r4a8O296opPSCVtTMcclMKNamkKkrpFJmCaGPxi2aPI8Y297k7hKb5 pPtT6I0tfS6BZH1xDMDXymxplENzuf29cpGxOOuslHNknAvFLT4D8voUvSybnBDOeXQJ EgbaE8S9cQ0zNmw1IYgYvJaUUiNUKTfOliYebJ+Aft4Utn7PyPHPagc9DblvaiXNminS D2GHUJu3AIYqfTTnhMak0ttT6LK+FWK3ZJM4dr+gX5y8Oo5DfpQOToRdweNthUBFb9jD kEvQNP55vmFhlVnJdcD9PFE5Cjpe88i67h5UckOu9TIiMcNWYG6dUxbYwGQWxuvmA+/j XfoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5313/6ySJ/yC+6UEoh3lMW8Af/bh9oYEvszh1RvmGBgAvkJSsRRM rEdMwnzVgtXPb1FEXbr3tusUpx3DmlP/HYFY7wNvt+Sb X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyjTcIjaLgaORwoT/LwNG9iHc+GvAdflvmK7klmxNPohpJe38yqAZNGmKcYY9qKBcv0H2exk74AwXVypJEXtGY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:b396:: with SMTP id e22mr4147970pjr.104.1613078900696; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 13:28:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:28:20 -0600 In-Reply-To: <83eehmh07n.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.216.46; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-f46.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264448 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > And no, I don't consider telling users to turn off font-lock a > legitimate solution. You suggested that some people might want to edit using fundamental-mode. IMHO asking them to then turn on fundamental-mode is an adequate solution to that problem. Stefan M pointed out the problem of conflicts in `auto-mode-alist'. I think this is a real problem, but one that would be mostly addressed by his proposal for generic-x.el to put its modes last in auto-mode-alist. Do you find that solution acceptable or do you prefer that we revert the original commit?