From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:18:09 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <878s7qifn2.fsf@telefonica.net> <874kieidcl.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7910"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Dmitry Gutov , =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 15 00:33:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lBQtM-0001zt-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 00:33:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34004 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBQtL-0006PT-KK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 18:33:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32892) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBQea-0005TX-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 18:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x62a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::62a]:43769) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBQeZ-0005lm-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 18:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x62a.google.com with SMTP id r2so2709829plr.10 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:18:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=JtWq6iGZrzHRySobfMUXpFrKtZCi+ReDcMvuxOmIU5U=; b=aPA31uLfnUyFsarf5X6QZblaLGXq+N8URm0IS59rpc0Sqm8n7Pd75lABMxKJ9KNB2K B++SAJYX2KJc83v765bCgKEGk0lBxeQy4MmX+2hrWkc2k0oGhxZTiwFw2p5e05Nfke17 Oznm+C2mxAh777VR+zMDv4bCMvqlQe25pf9rVbvgRfDmGhfy8wGAnVA53BaJ0ajG/lmN Dd+dzOgNIQCHik+bFIitgSql33DpTrObB5ciOBhphRyPbkaY96ps60/peUtOOzUUzMcF i7BWAKbZiHmKZkcABUsuX/DkFFVGOp7d+tgKSJ5Y4UIst27Qr6mqPepFxz/RnA5nuWwP G3ug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=JtWq6iGZrzHRySobfMUXpFrKtZCi+ReDcMvuxOmIU5U=; b=ITqT4conRzFRHwFbGEIi6a6Zf3XiTC9/glXURqaqcY5lPa1TbY/5rv67v2LUrJXNx5 1qbvr+BAdtvcVsm/rnBppnL4oDGHvj7r20/VAkAaWLZ22kVLOA0CnAYTpnGr+CZygGTb aCpyHJa/p4mhW1okRQgDPg6jh6x/cH4eHs58pEzDHLYqKDPlq+4m6g2T4Lk/zU3Ki9RF hMA+WISRp6A1wgfVXwjdVyoW3cpHflq0erBY7ihQPwk4CQfq1acF4pjcCFRTwtx5BTFJ QOrQN6VMQHefBDwbiajumC/DH5TNq7Zas2caDiaDSSszFKqh/AghHcj4/JmNkgKWnWiv VGlw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5329BBhYcEg/uFfGl+z178dpvULQafnvySY69OQiFkQKcpm7kd0z Ah5V6/MvZad7rf4HBySUPPUbHCUeCWG2Td0KXSw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzKQqz756L8utP0SXeGoAvP9e2NzqImZUxEyBuR1tXdlrr9QL/OyOgbo0MT+328HjrXtbR340EP7hNFHVSjjo0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:fe09:: with SMTP id ck9mr13435760pjb.175.1613344689908; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:18:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:18:09 -0600 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62a; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264799 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > This will still result in an order of magnitude fewer annotations than > doing them for each command. Why do you think such annotations are a problem? At least with annotations you don't have to guess if some heuristics will work, it is immediately clear from reading the code what will happen. > I like it because the implementation without annotations should already > work well enough for one to be able to get the feel of the feature > (meaning, it will likely work better than the current new feature for > quite some time, if one takes third-party packages without annotations > into account). I for one think the feature is already useful. But it will get more useful over time, of course.