From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 18:58:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <83tujbqg4j.fsf@gnu.org> <46353190-1190-495f-b15e-22980159b3ab@yandex.ru> <83y28mp0rb.fsf@gnu.org> <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> <83bl5dsh8b.fsf@gnu.org> <8335qps8vs.fsf@gnu.org> <9471c28f-8eae-b555-ee86-9fffd6229937@yandex.ru> <83bl5ayyym.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgsu428b.fsf@gnus.org> <87fsukcnr1.fsf@cvdub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12372"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "Philip K." , Daniel Fleischer , Richard Stallman , Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , Dmitry Gutov , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii , John Yates To: christian@cvdub.net Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 04 18:59:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mMZ0l-000338-U2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 18:59:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59944 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMZ0k-00080j-EN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 12:59:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMYzs-0007C2-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 12:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f173.google.com ([209.85.210.173]:37758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMYzq-0001tj-TA; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 12:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f173.google.com with SMTP id x19so2075447pfu.4; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 09:58:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kMe8V0Ud0VVNapAq8MmoQCqqCFPhCx80n5Q7xalFF7A=; b=emAIp1dcmEDXxYuuy+oO3EP5FNWSiZ4yDL+JRKLyieAz2TYq4/Fecm/LRYni7zXwCz J0HdzjzwU2FItBWi+BS7vFyBuubfnPVN6Dm8rncOmVbvK+DzNdRkhwtGSWxM5cGnBUFZ lcoqHqDde1kF+myvfpGegBf5x8yDd+wGKPmXei08Qn+dYfILLNqe8nF49SGnBTwk/VfK PLuAh3JL90qRdGYbw52DYG67iOitVsGyrRwnUNqjQyZC821ktgqh8QqBw3El74a+oe22 u4t3A8e5kctArf/62Lzyqru/gbhC+JY2Op0WPFuFt/+0LNOPyZXTdGqmOCPVLunr/are kCvw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533vHmRPaK1SFnwocj1AxrVbPYaxSxErpm0ijMch5RpY5FKLr2wi ZLS+aNGmg3mj3wCiZ3IJ4Y9+WqesXUC646to3vY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyxjijGDF8oxT6JAQ0LIF65BXiJ0VQQkCD/O7J7ntU6X1xRogQNtcC0R8Es5vuELS5f3VrOusu3nnnCigT6Sd0= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8b07:0:b029:3c7:c29f:9822 with SMTP id f7-20020aa78b070000b02903c7c29f9822mr4353582pfd.33.1630774704593; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 09:58:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fsukcnr1.fsf@cvdub.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.210.173; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-f173.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273935 Archived-At: Christian Vanderwall writes: > UX themes are a neat idea, but does it makes sense to include them in Ema= cs when external configs like Emacs Prelude exist? I think so, yes. We are discussing how to improve the OOTB experience. > Instead of selecting a profile/theme, what if new users could walk throug= h an interactive configuration tutorial? The config tutorial would walk the= m through the commonly changed defaults, letting them decide which to chang= e, and teaching them to persist changes in their init.el or via Customize i= n the process. There is currently a separate discussion taking place on this list about this. I suggest you take a look at it.