From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master fb061cd 1/4: ; * etc/NEWS: Rearrange and fix wording of some entries. Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:06:38 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20210906101353.11322.30746@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210906101355.082C520A0A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83fsuhr18r.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19315"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 08 18:14:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0DC-0004nV-5r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 18:14:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0DB-0000Yy-6P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:14:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO06A-0004rB-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:06:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-f181.google.com ([209.85.215.181]:45857) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO067-0003PZ-Lj; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:06:53 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-f181.google.com with SMTP id n18so3078166pgm.12; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QCL2QA8/10U8X87edwmsVzjNjQz+rg4J3c+cm0GcAjw=; b=fKLk+baMsnIUSqExi3ufvu/Wsb3P+nMcdsVVZk0xOZkfiIe1x6PxKj2ddtwih/u46g 04b12acSkNDz1wclM8HpjKSwgVxMQsy1umG9e58ObOA+cYLU87VJks38LUlUXoXCfSTw 5ICAfuXYKBBPX30xWSHS6La72DmAJ5RvplaSj0kLwmy3YPUhN84JaK/772e/0qtY5iPr lXoO3F7/ilXMM4duPdcq2ju3bYqB8iXoyKXi4udd7gvY9t4VheIxKTzydhsGvljkRNIL zdOFIqz/Wk1t2UA/cu0AqSxYghtnaqUy+U+atOSINLd6Ot51OMVWPF47QwA5CBiaSFUv X2Kg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Jis77U9MOxyAjDx/kq6bRLXF/W75+4pPnJ5P2wVVxmVtWO1So ucAyiU1Ot9r9vSeD1YzMaCgnviTvyne4a19qbXZ1vxnd69M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyBFmurpGLNu+lF+fux7PIKtBt3hYeYlj4tEgRyEer7YyChjIycZQ//QN99oCRJFijkRBIZ8gsO53qKHA2EIyM= X-Received: by 2002:a63:7d5d:: with SMTP id m29mr4401171pgn.114.1631117209783; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83fsuhr18r.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.215.181; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-f181.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274369 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I agree with all that you say (except the string disagreement ;-), but I am stringly happy to hear! ;-) > users will be oblivious to that change, unless the install packages > from ELPA. The original entry, as stand-alone text, doesn't have any > practical impact on users that don't install packages, and would just > leave them wondering what is all this about. > > IOW, the changed default doesn't affect anyone who doesn't use > package.el. Which is why I moved it under that section. Could this concern be addressed by adding 2-3 lines that explains what it is about?