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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320513 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > As I said, C-x 4 are convenient to you for windmove > commands. They'll be convenient to other users for other commands in > just the same way. You're proposing imposing your setup on everybody. > I'm against this. I think "imposing" is overstating the case, given that anyone can easily unbind or rebind keybindings they don't like.