From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:10:11 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87mtnbtimj.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnmd13ny.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <87czo3pgs1.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e9412d60db82df@heytings.org> <87o87moopl.fsf@gnus.org> <19fca5d18b63e6eff5de@heytings.org> <87wnmaiida.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgr6gw9s.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1chhhkh.fsf@gnus.org> <27b660e5a897f955064e@heytings.org> <87wnm91ecl.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38522"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Monnier , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Drew Adams , Philip Kaludercic , Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 19 19:29:36 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcsvf-0009kV-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 19:29:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46712 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcsve-00035A-4v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 13:29:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcscz-0004eM-0o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 13:10:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-f178.google.com ([209.85.215.178]:39791) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcscv-0005JY-ML for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 13:10:16 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-f178.google.com with SMTP id g184so19957503pgc.6 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:10:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Fw3eY57Lq/4BU6nKakDauvOe0YXzQCdvcoX7JrQYgBo=; b=zk1f8Xz+CioCGtFWwfruFlFzD+rAo7nqiYr8oyADF6QSVy/KpVN64rGKwJWxhiNu+L cXw1X7h0rroYg53fAnVxgb1N4WeULnxFuCR4C5PtxjdSNJVR77YpSDbioGaMgvyUbYAl n57dDNTFeo5gDKhlpsWyvfXRFNHEIPUh+TKXrXR2wOcnLTRXTmAljm/bKAv5omxRu9yX kuIcIR/oPaISlyPRVUJRylvwMyvH8NY0hKevllQhy8z0g0kHdwUS0qp8B7gn7XgWqCDU mPVkwuxOrmYq5wVfpZhsQUV+K9BKDpmHye57Px9cibwbpqINxeBpgfSSCgu6NMh9jUpY n4Sg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532a80721e+ZrRzgTnOUakZMJ90XfmUDFBWqKDEnunxkEx0RLk5O yT86Of5TEFMCI4E0+4PBL11wKK8idQeDxKHIbXw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz1X5x1HplzkQeRw+LT/HINlLeRHlvrJBpmzBRzj+sA89s9fJBV/DsFaD72QhDXIamBn58e1XkgY88Vq7Z2p78= X-Received: by 2002:a63:370c:: with SMTP id e12mr961591pga.359.1634663411784; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:10:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.215.178; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-f178.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277391 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> I sadly didn't follow the thread from the beginning >> (because the subject wasn't changed), but was the >> actual issue with using kbd discussed somewhere you >> could point me to? > > +1. > > I asked yesterday, and was summarily rebuked, and > the request ignored. Hope you have better luck. IMHO, "summarily rebuked" is a overstating the case. As I explained in my reply to you yesterday, this is all in the archives. Here is one possible starting point: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-10/msg01098.html If you want to dig even deeper, see the test-cases in subr-tests.el, and the rest of this thread.