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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299604 Archived-At: Payas Relekar writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >>>> 1. Get use-package in ELPA >>>> 2. Complete all documentation >>>> 3. Prepare documentation in texinfo >>>> Will cross that bridge when 2 is done. >> >> While we are at it, is there a rationale for this order? I mean, there >> is no hurry, right? My misunderstanding was that the order was 2 -> 3 -> >> 1. Or are you planning to have use-package ready for Emacs 29? > > If you mean merging use-package into emacs.git, that will definitely not > be happening (at least if I'm the only one working on it). [...] > From my understanding, ELPA has less stringent requirements for > documentation and testing compared to core. Since I cannot commit enough > time to complete all the tasks before expected 29 branch-off, ELPA is a > good compromise IMO. OK, I'll bite. I have time to dedicate to this task; perhaps we can move quickly enough for Emacs 29. Ultimately, the decision will be with the maintainers, but it seems to me that use-package.el itself is in shape for inclusion. Could you write up a summary of what needs doing before we can add use-package to emacs.git? Is it just a matter of writing up some more documentation, or is there more that needs doing? > As for the order rationale, getting use-package to ELPA means less > friction and more users can try it out, more feedback, more eyeballs, > basically. If we get it into core, we can make it into a :core package.