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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275638 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > Also note that we have had paren-matching behavior in text modes for a > long time. > > It's just using something other than show-paren-mode: > blink-matching-paren has defaulted to t since 1997. That's true. Not a great default IMO, they should have enabled it only in `prog-mode'. ;-) `blink-matching-paren' is less distracting though, as the paren is only highlighted when it's first written.