From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Keybinding styles Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:26:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87lf4dnk0z.fsf@gmail.com> <87wnnr2rgn.fsf@gmail.com> <83k0jql32w.fsf@gnu.org> <87tuim2bys.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38844"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , Tim Cross , Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , John Yates To: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEEuIEdvbWVz?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 15 16:28:08 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQVtQ-0009wL-Nm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:28:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44614 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQVtP-0003qO-EJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 10:28:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46654) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQVsO-0003AM-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 10:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f176.google.com ([209.85.214.176]:39678) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQVsN-0007YR-FP; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 10:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f176.google.com with SMTP id c4so1738733pls.6; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 07:27:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eI1xx/ErRwAOOYUvFbWpndt2F9IuXpCuWBLsHmt7ZtM=; b=WJGBk7VCewlFC0WLAD+fV/qYKDdjQsnM4OiDNfNKtaTkxesyBD15+hSNSxgnwATFCo W/D+7yU0ykDwj8QIK3C3aZeV/E1hMXGr+geQRxi7J1IKlprl6+TAEPrJckm9T+PBhqj8 rEpjfxEvF67Gtq3L0aVyyDnUsiLQ4X4IFWcJv4NoIYd1mFnT5FsfDJIlKsq1mwD6Xuc5 fyAVJ2egx5gqxpcvH5gwEXexOjF5tUgTMXWzTi7F5CBHShQ6t38oRyNcgXXjeHaEsbAC cKpq/MT0KiYPL2XwqXngXSYB1MkrlOYg1xSk7fWQU3czzPpSmsAdofd/Se2fz4BDLu1K HkgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5317Q2DakksYs1Ju85lH1IaUPmsKT/7aQvZa++vl/WC7tbUMFCYw uF2wkx+McXKEKRWvcDP/mvXt02B6C4nDotQJDR8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwNrgC2mMmhOnEHCqX8Uy9NMzrm/zndg9fjwRBhCyPa+DyFNFs640TWbARM3w+vHrynIG+nnVjJ8pM6sIn9Hxw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:5583:: with SMTP id c3mr62996pji.133.1631716020870; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 07:27:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87tuim2bys.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.214.176; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-f176.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274743 Archived-At: Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes writes: > But I brought the subject from another perspective. When a user runs > (info-emacs-manual), shouldn't it reflect Emacs' state? Concretely, if > I rebind C-x C-f to something else, the manual should tell me. It seems > to me like a missed opportunity. I don't think anyone disagrees that this would be a good thing (we already try to do that in help buffers, and the tutorial as you note). It also seems like Eli agrees, and even gave specific advice on how to do i= t. The only detail that's missing here is a working patch. ;-)