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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295945 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: >> If we still have a feeling in 2032 that there are users out there, we >> can always just postpone its removal for N more years. We've done that >> before. > > What other examples are there? See for example the comment in `interactive-p', or Bug#50999 on deleting obsolete libraries in Emacs 29.1. > I have the impression that line numbering is a pretty popular feature, > that might be lingering around in many configurations for ages without > anyone noticing it. That concern is valid, however I do think our track record shows that we can and do take such concerns into account when deciding whether or not we should delete obsolete things.