From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 07:49:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="10055"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers , ndame To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 07:50:35 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRrEQ-0002WS-IE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 07:50:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51128 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRrEP-0006Ea-Jx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:50:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33892) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRrDk-0005dI-JP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:49:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRrDk-0004rR-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:49:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f178.google.com ([209.85.219.178]:43267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRrDj-0004jn-D0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f178.google.com with SMTP id o198so4422201ybg.10 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:49:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=u5xlLvqyiGZdFwOiVRwY+B0dKJUnkKLjUV8bKoCAllI=; b=eAK17sOVovBNWcH+DXP+6CH4OGLNhqJPNE5QLLcys5qkNQLTS/h0F/6z5ESVg98wSD WTc4D5qMYil1/++73GPGW1k/PhuHLqsR/virelMpwGC2kfMy9CfbKGYHL0rJSXrD7bah i8N+LJpwK86K4GixIpjeS09OLU/pLQVYO8yKn1chOeFutTi924tLI5DDSaSvbsT2LPD0 l4XKpnyQyZlqrBUheZ5/knGasPFd8TTz+QTIhg+IRfY/AAJedH2QOeJzT9xHiIelFYEI ZRfbDwFnfLyEhm0vgl8u7Jlbw10gWk8L85LHlGrW66iqii4UtETQoT7/i+/KY+L46MyX gtgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZS0KuUKiZi5XELS3QnjmAIIXIv3eWcBMMKPOZ4rpYiyIVpRlVp uC/KhsMLY2o/2rEj7BL4uYVOPKB609inOxV0jo0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIM2sqG9LSQfJvqcjtAfGrzfIblHfQsN059Oq/ONz3fL5FXjAaKpEE7at6c1LrmEYcONFYcnOPc6C1ePig6xRY= X-Received: by 2002:a25:fc08:: with SMTP id v8mr12258614ybd.389.1587707390212; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:49:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.219.178; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-f178.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/24 01:49:50 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.219.178 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247666 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > > Is there an actual effort too seek out prospective packages and ask the > > code owners to include it in emacs? > > Yes. I'd say at least half of the packages we currently have in GNU > ELPA are there because we went out and tried to get the authors to > contribute their package to GNU ELPA. Interesting; I wasn't aware that it was that many. Important progress has clearly been made. But ideally we would see it happen the other way around: package maintainers reaching out to us for inclusion. > I welcome help in doing that work, BTW. Is there a list of packages we would like to see included and their current status? That would definitely make it easier to get involved. Such a list could also include the packages where we have tried but hit a dead end. We could add this to the Emacs TODO and/or a separate file in the ELPA repository. Best regards, Stefan Kangas