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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314318 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > So I think having MANUAL-LANG.info files which are translations of > MANUAL.info to the various languages LANG, and having them in the same > single directory, is the best alternative, as its impact on existing > code and distros is minimal, almost non-existent. OK, then let's do it that way. However, does that mean that, e.g. `ses-fr`, would always be listed, or would it be listed only when using a French locale? I imagine that most users would never want to look at most foreign language manuals (they typically speak only a few languages), so showing all translations risks mostly getting in the way.